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I am using Olympus Studio 2 (will work with anything), you could call it 'thinking mans Lightroom' but maybe you wouldn't want to if you didn't want to, it has the 'Lightbox' feature for before and after.

A good free Raw converter is Raw Therapy.

http://www.rawtherapee.com/

Also have CS4 Extended PS and programme called Photo Mechanic used as a browser / info mangler, only use Bridge for importing really.


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I am using Olympus Studio 2 (will work with anything)
Operating System Requirements:
This product is designed to run on the following operating systems:
Windows Vista
Windows XP
Windows 2003
Windows 2000

So it will NOT work with "anything" because it won't work on a Mac OS or Linux system.
Hardly a "thinking mans Lightroom" when no thought has gone in to making it cross platform.

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Sorry, what I meant was, you don't have to use an Olympus camera or Olympus RAW formats to use it.

But anyway, it does work on OSX. Where you get that info from ?

http://forum.fourthirdsphoto.com/showthread.php?t=33427

They were patching it back in 2008 for Leopard.....


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Was discussing the image editing software thing with a friend today and thought I would add, what he said, and he is basically a wedding and family portrait photographer, not that fancy, but a decent one with a long list of happy customers.

He said before you throw cash down on imagine software, use that cash to get a decent display, and calibrate it, so borrow or buy the device to do it. He said he goes on forums and sees people listing off all the fancy cameras they own, and then they list their computer and they have a £150 Samsung TN or a glossy Macbook (his words not mine) or something else, ultimately the weakest link in the chain.

His Macbook comments are based upon this I believe, though he did say they aren't all bad, just the later ones it seems :

http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_ ... -9876-9881


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One thing I don't like about the GIMP is the lack of decent colour management. In fact I don't like that about Linux in general. CMS is a PITA.

When it comes to cataloguing though, I haven't found anything I like. LR sounds good.

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If you want to catalogue, then use something like Gimp or Gimpshop to edit, then this is very good,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photo_Mechanic


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I wasn't sure if it was worth starting a new "Lr3" thread, but apparently it'll be getting lens correction when it's released.

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I wasn't sure if it was worth starting a new "Lr3" thread, but apparently it'll be getting lens correction when it's released.

This is brilliant!


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Indeed. I do hope there's a profile for my 14-24mm.

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All I know so far is that Mark, Jimmy Olsen and Peter Parker use Nikon and everybody else seems to use Canon.
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Indeed. I do hope there's a profile for my 14-24mm.

Mark

You can add new lenses.

lense distorsion on buildings make me feel ill. This is really good :)


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Very clever. Although I preferred the motorbike photo when it was distorted!

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I wasn't sure if it was worth starting a new "Lr3" thread, but apparently it'll be getting lens correction when it's released.
I do have a tiny fear about this; Adobe started out with Photoshop which was just a very simple to use image editing application, and now it's a total bloatware that has stuff in it that the 'average' user will never likely need or use.
I hope Adobe doesn't start doing this with Lr.

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All I know so far is that Mark, Jimmy Olsen and Peter Parker use Nikon and everybody else seems to use Canon.
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EddArmitage wrote:
I wasn't sure if it was worth starting a new "Lr3" thread, but apparently it'll be getting lens correction when it's released.
I do have a tiny fear about this; Adobe started out with Photoshop which was just a very simple to use image editing application, and now it's a total bloatware that has stuff in it that the 'average' user will never likely need or use.
I hope Adobe doesn't start doing this with Lr.

Mark

Much of the bloat that comes with Photoshop is nothing to do with photography and more to do with general image manipulation. The tweaks we are seeing in Lightroom all seem to be explicitly related to digital photography - there are no 'painting' tools, no text overlay tools (with the exception of the watermark feature) and no concept of layers. I think it's good that they are adding stuff like this, all the while it's concentrated on the specifically narrow remit of Lightroom as something to organise, process, present and export digital photographs.

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spending a not inconsiderable amount of money on software to fix mistakes is counter-intuitive.

Sorry, I have to take issue with that! Lr is not just there to 'fix mistakes'. Its primary purpose is to allow you to catalogue your photos, organising them by date, keywords, and any number of other vectors. You can use it to fix mistakes, but you can also use it to do to a digital photo what used to be done to black and white prints, when different parts of the image would be exposed on the paper for different lengths of time to bring out more detail in shadow and highlight areas.


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All my photos are taken in RAW (the compact camera being the exception) so I absolutely need to develop them digitally. This is a) got nothing to do with fixing mistakes and b) no different to what one might do with chemicals and paper

Of course you get the flexability to improve the image if desired. Given my cameras known quirk to underexpose by around a stop (especially if I keep the reins on ISO) using Lr, Camera RAW or any other such program becomes part of the process of taking a photo in my digital environment. That doesnt mean its not preferable to get it right in camera, just that the process doesnt have to end when you release the shutter.

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