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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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Copyright: time to change the laws?Just a discussion culminating in an opt in system suggestion. Oh, and a no brainer. My thoughts are that the user should seek permission rather than the owner seeking protection.
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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HeatherKay
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In the US, the onus is on the artist to register their works with the authorities. That's the opposite of how it works over here, where copyright is assumed.
Not sure I want the hassle, but if it ends up protecting the rights of the creator, then that's the way it has to be.
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Tue May 18, 2010 7:42 am |
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EddArmitage
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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For me it's not the hassle, but the cost. It's ~35USD for each set of images you want protecting in the states, non?
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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I thought our rights were already protected. If they are then why change the system?
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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Tue May 18, 2010 8:24 am |
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EddArmitage
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I think the suposed advantage of the US system of having to register copyright is that it's very easily provable in court when someone steals your images.
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Tue May 18, 2010 8:43 am |
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Linux_User
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Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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I think the period of protection needs to be drastically reduced. 70 years after the death of the creator is way too much.
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Wed May 19, 2010 11:57 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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Haven't the yanks been pushing to increase that even more? Personally I think 20 after death would be more than suitable, the estate should go out and earn their own money.
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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Thu May 20, 2010 8:19 pm |
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wolfie2
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Joined: Sun May 10, 2009 1:43 pm Posts: 76 Location: Newtownabbey, Northern Ireland
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I think anyone should be able to use another's images with the appropriate credit included if it is on a not-for-profit basis, that way the images get exposure. However when someone earns money from anothers work then there should be a profit sharing scheme.
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Sun May 23, 2010 9:28 pm |
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nickminers
Occasionally has a life
Joined: Sun May 03, 2009 7:59 pm Posts: 292 Location: UK
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Don't you think that should be up to the photographer?
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Mon May 24, 2010 6:07 am |
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nvj1662
Occasionally has a life
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 6:15 pm Posts: 175
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IMHO, if I make an image, it belongs to me. I should not be required to go to extra effort and expense (lining somebody else's pocket), to prove it. If somebody else wishes to use that image, they have a reason and will go to some effort to achieve that end. Part of that effort involves contacting me and asking permission, it is after all my image. No third party should be inserting themselves, uninvited, as a middle-man and creaming off profit for nothing.
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Wed May 26, 2010 12:34 pm |
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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Still too much - death is the latest I'd want to see, but TBH I'd be happy to support a fixed term, such as 25 years (from date of creation).
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Wed May 26, 2010 7:20 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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That would bring it in line with a lot of other patent industries such as pharmaceuticals and engineering. However those are groups and not individuals so I'm not so sure that would be fair. Should we make a deal on death? 
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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