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What other phone makers use the Foxconn factory? Does anyone know?


According to this article:
http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/18/foxcon ... st-attack/

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Foxconn, which makes products for Apple, Sony, HP, Amazon, Nokia, Motorola, Nintendo, Microsoft, Dell and Cisco (and just about everyone else)


Wikipedia lists Sony, Apple, Nintendo, Microsoft (XBox), Intel…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn

So, we all have stuff made by them, they are not just Apple’s manufacturing arm. I bet you all have kit from the list above in one form or another.

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So, we all have stuff made by them, they are not just Apple’s manufacturing arm. I bet you all have kit from the list above in one form or another.


Which is precisely why I'm making the point that I am. This isn't down to corporations, it's down to the market.


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So, we all have stuff made by them, they are not just Apple’s manufacturing arm. I bet you all have kit from the list above in one form or another.


Which is precisely why I'm making the point that I am. This isn't down to corporations, it's down to the market.

I agree but long term it is unsustainable.

Also why are Apple being targeted when many other companies are just as culpable now.

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Why just go after Apple though.

These protestors are barking up the wrong tree if you ask me.

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Apple is a big name, a so-called goody-goody corporation that's been put on the pedestal ready to be knocked down.

No-one would take notice if Nokia was badgered about poor working practices in a subcontracted factory.

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paulzolo wrote:
So, we all have stuff made by them, they are not just Apple’s manufacturing arm. I bet you all have kit from the list above in one form or another.


Which is precisely why I'm making the point that I am. This isn't down to corporations, it's down to the market.

I agree but long term it is unsustainable.

Also why are Apple being targeted when many other companies are just as culpable now.


EVERYTHING is unsustainable long term!!!! My point stands.

As for Apple, Heather's right. They've set themselves up for it with Jobs' holier-than-thou attitude and clean image.


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The other point is, there are over 800,000 employees working for Foxconn, that is on a par with a relatively large town or city. What are the suicide rates like for some comparable sized towns? :?

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The other point is, there are over 800,000 employees working for Foxconn, that is on a par with a relatively large town or city. What are the suicide rates like for some comparable sized towns? :?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... icide_rate

UK: 6.8 per 100,000 people.
China: 13.9 per 100,000 people.

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The other point is, there are over 800,000 employees working for Foxconn, that is on a par with a relatively large town or city. What are the suicide rates like for some comparable sized towns? :?


That's a very large city - only Birmingham and London are larger (in the UK). However, I don't think that's a suitable comparison. The NHS employs some 1.3 million people, it'd be interesting to see the suicide rate of NHS staff - at work - to that of Foxconn.

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big_D wrote:
The other point is, there are over 800,000 employees working for Foxconn, that is on a par with a relatively large town or city. What are the suicide rates like for some comparable sized towns? :?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... icide_rate

UK: 6.8 per 100,000 people.
China: 13.9 per 100,000 people.

On that basis it looks like they are doing better than china overall. Though people working might have lower suicide rates than those who are out of work and depressed.

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An interesting perspective from the Telegraph...

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/malco ... -suicides/

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... Foxconn finds itself in the position of continuing to pay 110,000 yuan (£11,000) in compensation to every person who jumps. For a depressed Foxconn employee, who still feels an obligation to repay his family for the cost of his or her upbringing and who would like to give his parents a lump sum that could transform their lives, this is a very tempting sum.

For a worker on the basic rate of 900 yuan a month, the compensation amounts to the equivalent of over ten years of gross salary. For a worker who is doing overtime and earning 1500 yuan a month, the compensation is still worth six years of salary.

If these enormous payments don’t stop, the suicides are unlikely to either. But if Foxconn takes the pragmatic option, there is every chance that its workers, fanned by the media, will revolt at its callousness. I would not want to be in Mr Gou’s shoes.


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Mr. Gou was also caught on camera saying that they were busy installing nets, to catch people who jumped! The PR rep quickly stifled him, before he could do any more damage! :lol:

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Mr. Gou was also caught on camera saying that they were busy installing nets, to catch people who jumped! The PR rep quickly stifled him, before he could do any more damage! :lol:

Next sealing the windows above ground floor to stop jumpers, after that chaining them to the workstations so that they cannot overwhelm the supervisors and open the windows. /s

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