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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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Most supermarkets banned trans-fats in own brand products quite a few years ago. These days, about the only thing you find them in is instant whip. One side effect of this move away from artificial hard fats is the increased dependence of industry on naturally hard fats such as palm oils, which are typically hidden on the ingredients as "vegetable oils". Palm oil is bad from an environmental and social perspective, as well as a health one. However, it's cheaper than alternatives such as dairy or coconut. Every time you use margarine, a rhino dies. http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/forests/palm-oil
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Somebody (not you) cannot spell it should be NIBO rather than NICE.
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:46 pm |
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lumbthelesser
Occasionally has a life
Joined: Fri May 21, 2010 11:38 pm Posts: 442 Location: Manchester
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Really? I would be very surprised if 3 rhinos a day died just because of me.... In fact, If this was the case, I suspect they would have been extinct years ago. 
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Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:19 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Actually I would have thought it was Orang-utans that were mainly at risk from Palm oil plantations.
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:20 am |
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adidan
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:43 pm Posts: 5048
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Indeed. That's frakked up when you see the Rainforest Alliance backing things like Kit-Kat because of the "green" cocoa production and slapping their logo on it. They seem to turn a blind eye to the palm oil in it even when they could get palm oil from other sustainable sources. So Joe Bloggs is 'Yay, it has the Rainforest Alliance logo on it, it must be good'. No, you're killing Orang-utans.
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:43 am |
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Amnesia10
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I am avoiding palm oil from all sources because of the clearing of rain forests. I prefer to use walnut and olive oil.
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:55 am |
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adidan
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:43 pm Posts: 5048
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It's tricky, they sometimes even add it to random things like joints of Beef.
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:38 am |
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Amnesia10
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I get my meat from a local independent butcher so that is unlikely with the meat I get from him, but as you say if they add it to all sorts of unrelated products it does slip though the filters. Though can people be allergic to palm oil? It is made from nuts so could be allergenic. In which case are they warning people of the risk?
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:25 am |
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adidan
I haven't seen my friends in so long
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Especially when they hide it, using names like cocoa butter equivalent or cocoa butter substitute. I think there are even more names, and yet an even longer list of alternative names when use in non-foodstuffs.
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:34 am |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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All things in moderation. Eat whatever you want, just less of it if it's bad for you. People need to learn portion control.
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:45 am |
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Amnesia10
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Especially when it comes to pies. 
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:08 am |
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bobbdobbs
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:10 pm Posts: 5490 Location: just behind you!
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Im still waiting for NICE to call for the ban of BBQ's and smoked meat due to all those nasty nitrosamines and PAH's.
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:48 am |
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belchingmatt
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Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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That will just encourage the use of smoke flavour. 
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Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:56 am |
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adidan
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Yup small pie, big pie, medium pie. Never 3 big pies. 
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