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Stabbing somebody 10x is a murder, nothing else!

You could hardly pre-meditate that unless he had a weapon 'ready' for when something like that happens

Worst case manslaughter tbh

Ok, I agree.
The point I was trying to make is that if you kill a person in self defence with a knife I needs to be investigated properly.

I understand that the person might die sometimes but I would hope that it is not gonna be a deliberetaly caused death. And if it is it needs to be punished!

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Ok, I agree.
The point I was trying to make is that if you kill a person in self defence with a knife I needs to be investigated properly.

I understand that the person might die sometimes but I would hope that it is not gonna be a deliberetaly caused death. And if it is it needs to be punished!

Definitely.

If he was stabbed once but the knife snagged an artery close to the surface of the skin and he died from eventual blood-loss it is very different from being stabbed 10 times in the stomach until the guy is incapable of moving and left to die.

I agree completely.

We will have to see what happens.

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Yes but 4 men armed with guns attacking a 72 year old (note no foam pie) means that even 10 stab wounds in one of the attackers would be reasonable.

Absolute rubbish!!! Stabbing somebody 10x is a murder, nothing else!


You could hardly pre-meditate that unless he had a weapon 'ready' for when something like that happens

Worst case manslaughter tbh

And yes there is a difference between stabbing someone once and 10 times, once probably wont permanently disable a person when the majority of people do it

Guess the shopkeeper has never seen The Untouchables if he brought a knife to a gunfight

Actually a florist would have scissors and a knife to trim flowers so hardly premeditated.

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koli wrote:
Ok, I agree.
The point I was trying to make is that if you kill a person in self defence with a knife I needs to be investigated properly.

I understand that the person might die sometimes but I would hope that it is not gonna be a deliberetaly caused death. And if it is it needs to be punished!

Yes but there is no reason to arrest someone. They can interview people and investigate this without having to arrest him. Especially as now an arrest would now mean he had to pay for a US visa for a holiday.

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