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PaulKey
Occasionally has a life
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am
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Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Wow are they running out if things to do? This is a complete waste of time and money. I hope that the person sues the police for malicious prosecution. He would probably win. So will we need licenses for super soakers now?  _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm
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So much for Blackberry Messenger being encrypted & kept away from prying eyes.
This is all knee-jerk anti-riot stuff. Knee-jerk legislation/policies are the worst kind.
Clearly the Police have nothing better to do.
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Amnesia10
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I think that Blackberry will lose customers over this. Businesses want security. If the messages are being handed over to the police who knows what else they are getting access to? What about legitimate queries about the riots? If the word riot was a trigger then businesses could find all their traffic being searched. Not good in terms of business confidence if their messages are decrypted and floating out there somewhere. _________________Do concentrate, 007... "You are gifted. Mine is bordering on seven seconds." https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTg5MzczNTkhttp://astore.amazon.co.uk/wwwx404couk-21
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bobbdobbs
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:10 pm
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Dont consumer versions of BB run a different system for messaging security than corporate customers? _________________Finally joined Flickr
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm
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Yes and no. Corporate systems have Blackberry Enterprise servers that connect to the user's email system whereas 'consumer' systems do direct POP/IMAP grab. However everything that shows up on your blackberry has to go via RIM and/or your mobile service provider. The phone doesn't make a direct connection to the 'secure corporate environment' beyond the point that it's activated. BBMs definitely go via RIM. In theory, the text of the messages should be passed as an encrypted lump of data which RIM itself can't read - but apparently they've been somewhat economical with the truth about that. Jon
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am
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You are assuming that messages have been hacked. Are the police banned from owning blackberries? Could they not have received the messages directly through subterfuge or an informant?
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koli
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:12 pm
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I think this is what happened: The guy has used BBM to broadcast (send one message to all his BBM contacts) a message about the waterfight, people kept passing/broadcasting it on until it got to somebody who showed it to police. Anything (bbm, pin, emails) that goes through BIS (ordinary Joe's BB) can be read by RIM. What goes through the BES (corporate BB) cannot be (in theory) read by anybody, no even by RIM. For those who want to know more: http://crackberry.com/blackberry-encryp ... alk-turkeyhttp://crackberry.com/what-blackberry-e ... i-need-onehttp://crackberry.com/pin-pin-messaging-secure
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