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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16963116Harry Redknapp offers to look for his old bank books 
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Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:37 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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He's the bit I don't get. The idea is that they create this money, give it to the banks and the banks then lend it to businesses which boosts the economy through jobs etc. However as I understand it, the banks have failed to meet lending targets. ie They're holding onto the cash. So why doesn't the BoE give that money to the government to spend on wages to reduce job cuts in the public sector, or at least delay them. Surely that would help the economy as we wouldn't need to borrow more cash on the international debt markets until that £50bn had run out?
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Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:55 pm |
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brataccas
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:14 pm Posts: 5664 Location: Scotland
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nazi money no doubt, damn those rothschilds
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Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:34 pm |
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HeatherKay
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 7262 Location: Here, but not all there.
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Nothing worse than good Jewish nazis, eh? 
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:02 am |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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Geoirge Osborne speaking about Quantitive Easing in 2009: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvds30Rm6p4(quote around 1:06 in) He also notes that QE in Japan resulted in the banks hoarding the money and hopes it doesn’t happen here. That was in 2009. What happened here? The banks hoarded the moment. Whose to say that this isn’t going to happen again? Osborne has previously referred to Quantitive Easing as “the last resort of desperate governments” ( http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-s ... sing-round) but has clearly changed his tune in more recent times. I hope he gets to explain his position in regards to that quote. So, here we go again. A bunch of Old Etonians cocking about with the economy. Where’s that picture? Ah, yes. I think this sums it up rather nicely: Eton boys leave air-raid shelter by hairydalek, on Flickr
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:40 am |
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jonlumb
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:44 pm Posts: 4141 Location: Exeter
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I'm slightly confused by this. I thought that QE measures came from the Bank of England, not the Chancellor, and that the BoE had expressly been set up so it wasn't taking orders from the Chancellor?
Or have I got it completely wrong? (I'm aware that even if the two entities are in theory separate that doesn't stop 'conversations' from happening of course).
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:23 am |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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The BoE gets to decide yay or nay but I assume the Chancellor can tell them he thinks it would do some good. Mind you, given some of his previous decisions, he probably also thinks the moon is made of cheese.
Jon
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:42 am |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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Handy that, the BoE appearing to be independent to the government. However, I suspect the arrangement is slightly more cozy.
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:02 pm |
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koli
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:12 pm Posts: 1171
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Nothing is given to banks. When BOE buys a bond from somebody that somebody will have more money than before. Also money suply has increased because that money wasn't available before, BOE has had it in its safe (not really in the safe but for illustration it sufficient to say so). More money sloshing around => lower interest rates... Lending just for the sake of lending is stupid...
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:07 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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This isn't lending for it's own sake (not that that would be wrong in a capitalist economy but anyway...). It's lending to stimulate the economy by promoting growth. It's the flip side of the austerity measures. Government cuts the amount of money it ploughs directly into the economy through public spending and the private sector fills the hole so the economy doesn't deflate, if you'll excuse the mixed metaphor. However without finance the private sector can't grow, so the economy ends up stalling. In fact, the justification is kind of irrelevant. The banks agreed to a certain amount of lending in the Merlin agreement as a condition of the government bailout. The rumour is they're not at all meeting the commitments they made in the Merlin agreement. It will be.... instructive to see if the government does anything, if this turns out to be true. In a 'which is the monkey and which is the organ grinder' sense. Jon
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Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:37 pm |
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belchingmatt
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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Less stick more carrot.
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