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Sexist! ;)

I didn't know Scotland was that confused in regards to the law. No wonder Tommy Sheridan keeps winding up in court over sexual matters ;)

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I'm not entirely sure how they plan to 'reduce demand'. Bromide in the water supply?


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I'm not entirely sure how they plan to 'reduce demand'. Bromide in the water supply?


Well, they're putting the price of booze up...

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I'm not entirely sure how they plan to 'reduce demand'. Bromide in the water supply?

Well prosecuting traffickers more heavily might deter a couple of them.

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jonbwfc wrote:
I'm not entirely sure how they plan to 'reduce demand'. Bromide in the water supply?

Well prosecuting traffickers more heavily might deter a couple of them.

Prosecuting traffickers reduces supply, not demand. The only way to reduce demand is to reduce the number of people who want to pay for sex, which is kind of tricky. You reduce supply without affecting demand and all that happens is the price goes up. Then someone else appears to take advantage of the high price and the market stabilises again. It's pretty fundamental stuff.

The problem of course is that as long as the demand persists, there will be somebody willing to supply to it. That's just basic economics. You can prosecute every pimp/trafficker you can get your hands on, you're just playing whack-a-mole until you can figure out a way to mitigate the demand to the point where there's no real money to be made meeting that demand. Whether that's by legalising prostitution, education in why illegal prostitution almost inevitably leads to the exploitation of young women or much worse, or some other means of stopping people wanting to pay for sex.

Saying "we'll arrest all the traffickers" is a very good thing insofar as it punishes nasty people for doing horrible things but it's no long term solution to prostitution. We've had prostitution as long as we'd have an economy to speak of (i.e. since there was a way to exchange something of value for the service provided) and we probably always will, it's more a question of how you manage it so fewest people get least hurt.


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jonbwfc wrote:
I'm not entirely sure how they plan to 'reduce demand'

Better dogging facilities.


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jonbwfc wrote:
I'm not entirely sure how they plan to 'reduce demand'

Better dogging facilities.

More cheap Easyjet flight to the brothels of Amsterdam?

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ShockWaffle wrote:
jonbwfc wrote:
I'm not entirely sure how they plan to 'reduce demand'

Better dogging facilities.

More cheap Easyjet flight to the brothels of Amsterdam?

Actually last time I was in a bogs at a service station they had a machine vending some kind of electrical self pleasuring device for men.

Or they could order traffic cops to give hand jobs to every third trucker they see.


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Amnesia10 wrote:
jonbwfc wrote:
I'm not entirely sure how they plan to 'reduce demand'. Bromide in the water supply?

Well prosecuting traffickers more heavily might deter a couple of them.

Prosecuting traffickers reduces supply, not demand. The only way to reduce demand is to reduce the number of people who want to pay for sex, which is kind of tricky. You reduce supply without affecting demand and all that happens is the price goes up. Then someone else appears to take advantage of the high price and the market stabilises again. It's pretty fundamental stuff.

The problem of course is that as long as the demand persists, there will be somebody willing to supply to it. That's just basic economics. You can prosecute every pimp/trafficker you can get your hands on, you're just playing whack-a-mole until you can figure out a way to mitigate the demand to the point where there's no real money to be made meeting that demand. Whether that's by legalising prostitution, education in why illegal prostitution almost inevitably leads to the exploitation of young women or much worse, or some other means of stopping people wanting to pay for sex.

Saying "we'll arrest all the traffickers" is a very good thing insofar as it punishes nasty people for doing horrible things but it's no long term solution to prostitution. We've had prostitution as long as we'd have an economy to speak of (i.e. since there was a way to exchange something of value for the service provided) and we probably always will, it's more a question of how you manage it so fewest people get least hurt.

A number of traffickers use violence to control the women they use. As you said it will not reduce demand but might stop the flow of women from Europe and wherever in the world from being sent here. Legalising the profession and regulating it might be a better way to deal with the problem and it will be far safer for the women involved.

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