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jonbwfc
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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BT's great broadband scamOr alternatively, how the government's dogmatic adherence to 'competition is best' cost us all a billion pounds, which BT then threw at Premier league Football...
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Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:25 am |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Given the importance of the network backbone why don't they give BT an order to split the network so that the core backbone to exchanges is separate to every other part of the group. Then if they fail to increase speeds to every exchange then the backbone is nationalised.
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Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:11 am |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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Same as just about every other contract the government signs it seems.
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Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:00 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Governments are really bad at negotiating contracts, probably because they either have no idea of what they want or super stupid.
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Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:28 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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Or because the minister in charge changes half way through the procurement process and tells them to add/remove stuff at a whim. Or because the Daily Mail raises a fuss and the people in charge are too weak to tell them to eff off. The inherent problem with public services is not that they are by definition more inefficient or less competent than private corporations (there are as many examples that disprove the theorem as prove it) but that being 'public' they are subject to political processes that private business simply isn't. The main failing with public service outsourcing is the failure to realise that it inevitably subjects the private corporation who is outsourced to to those same political pressures. The ability of the outsourcer to mitigate that pressure can have a large effect on the success of the project. The notion that BT won't discuss parts of the contract with the other party in the contract is laughable though.
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Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:35 pm |
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tombolt
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 2967 Location: Dorchester, Dorset
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I've had to ditch adsl for 3G. 0.2meg vs 3-7 meg is no contest. Shame it's a bit flaky, but at least when it does work it's useable.
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Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:03 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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I think that they will claim commercial confidentiality. In fact there should be immediate termination of any contract if a government contractor claims commercial confidentiality. Look at the disasters of G4S at the Olympics and ATOS with the disability screenings.
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Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:20 pm |
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l3v1ck
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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I'm hoping our exchange gets it's Fibre to Cabinet upgrade next month. 
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Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:01 pm |
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tombolt
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:38 am Posts: 2967 Location: Dorchester, Dorset
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Absolutely no chance of that ever happening to me. And think of all the urbanites my taxes help out 
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Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:11 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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I am in a semi rural area but get a solid 14 Mbps so personally I think that people in black spots such as your self should be given priority over areas like mine.
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:33 am |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Even urban areas can be bad. The last house I rented, even though it was in a city suburb, could only get 512kb.
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:20 am |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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They probably should have priority over all other areas as it would provide the biggest improvements for more people than rural areas. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk.
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Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:44 am |
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