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Islamist militant group Isis has said it is establishing a caliphate, or Islamic state, on the territories it controls in Iraq and Syria.

It also proclaimed the group's leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, as caliph and "leader for Muslims everywhere".

Setting up a caliphate ruled by the strict Islamic law has long been a goal of many jihadists.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28082962

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A British man who claims he has been fighting in Syria says he will not return until the "black flag of Islam" is flying over Buckingham Palace.

Let the f**ker stay in Syria then.

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A British man who claims he has been fighting in Syria says he will not return until the "black flag of Islam" is flying over Buckingham Palace.

Let the f**ker stay in Syria then.

BUT...BUT..... my Islamic flag is a nice pastel blue - will he come back when that flag is flying or is he inflexible about the colour

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In the speech - which spread rapidly across jihadi websites with translations in multiple languages, al-Baghdadi also discussed practical matters pertaining to the caliphate. He called for doctors, judges, engineers and experts in Islamic jurisprudence to join the cause.

It was a bold move from a man who has turned his breakaway al-Qaeda faction, until recently known as Isis, into the world's richest terrorist group but all the while carefully kept himself out of the public view.

There are only two known photographs of al-Baghdadi, one dating from his 2005-2009 imprisonment in a US detention camp in Iraq. On his release, to be handed over to Iraqi control, he reportedly remarked to US officials: "I'll see you in New York". And with that parting shot, he disappeared from sight - until now.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... Mosul.html

Why wasn't his group shut down or at least hobbled before now? The intelligence must have been hanging out of it - they're literally on a crusade!

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In the speech - which spread rapidly across jihadi websites with translations in multiple languages, al-Baghdadi also discussed practical matters pertaining to the caliphate. He called for doctors, judges, engineers and experts in Islamic jurisprudence to join the cause.

Extremist regimes have a fairly consistent record of executing people like that once things get a bit tough, so I wouldn't expect queues at the border to be honest.

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Why wasn't his group shut down or at least hobbled before now? The intelligence must have been hanging out of it - they're literally on a crusade!

They were. Al Al Qaida in Iraq, as they were previously known, were quite effectively dealt with. The American administration in Iraq did a deal with local Sunni clans to guarantee them a share of oil revenues and a reasonable level of political representation in the Iraqi parliament. In that region this means the ability to create a certain number of government jobs to be handed out to your friends, but it also prevents a government of not-your-friends from giving all your jobs to their friends, and taxing the fck out of yours, putting them in jail and so on.

In return, the Sunni militias clamped down on Al Qaida and the civil war that had been brewing was nipped in the bud. Two major things changed that.

Firstly, in Syria we stood by and did nothing while another dictator fought against secular enemies. He reasoned that we would keep doing nothing if his enemies were more jihadi in than this. So he released the thousands of jihadists who were clogging up his jails. Now those guys are fighting for ISIS in both Syria and Iraq, and we are guaranteed to do nothing.

And second, the Shiite government who run Iraq decided they didn't need to have a deal with the Sunni. They tried to arrest the vice president (Sunni - now in exile), they took away all the government jobs, they weakened all the Sunni power brokers who controlled those jobs, and then they started killing Sunni protesters
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 1612436322
So who is going to crack down on them for us now?
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