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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014 ... ypthecatedMore than happy to pay for it, but I'd want tax loopholes and sweetheart deals shut down at the same time. Sort the frigging trusts out while you're at it. The NHS is far too politicized and subsequently crippled in this climate because successive scumbags wanted to sell it off to their friends.
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Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:05 am |
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davrosG5
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:37 am Posts: 6954 Location: Peebo
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So we're talking about providing an actual breakdown of what National Insurance is used for and presumably increasing it or a completely separate PAYE type tax on top?
Gordon Brown twigged that people didn't object to paying more in NI if they knew it would go to the NHS. The problem is that once it gets to the NHS large chunks of it start disappearing into things the majority of people wouldn't be all that happy about funding - like paying ridiculous PFI payments (I'm thinking here of Peterborough and Satmford Trust haemorrhaging money paying for the new Peterborough City hospital as an example).
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Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:03 pm |
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cloaked_wolf
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 pm Posts: 10022
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If I were in Govt, I'd renege on all PFI and NHS debts, wipe the slate clean and kick out a lot of unnecessary managers.
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Sun Jul 27, 2014 5:37 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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NHS tax..... Isn't that already called National Insurance?
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Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:16 pm |
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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I'd want proof of medical insurance for people coming in at ports/airports, or they don't get let in. My mother-in-law used to work at a London hospital. The abuse of the system was massive.
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Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:18 pm |
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MrStevenRogers
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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MrStevenRogers
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:08 am |
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MrStevenRogers
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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i would like NI put back to 10% and not increased by any means not that i mind paying NI but the will have to deal with that budget anything outside of that, sack the management ...
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ShockWaffle
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:50 am Posts: 1911
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Some of those debts are held in the name of the UK govt, so you would be choosing a voluntary sovereign default. Most of the rest' we're legally obliged to honour, so you would also have to implement a new constitutional act placing yourself above the law. I may have to not vote for you, should you stand for election.
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Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:42 am |
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cloaked_wolf
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:46 pm Posts: 10022
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Well obv I wouldn't say anything about it until after I was elected. 
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Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:46 am |
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ShockWaffle
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:50 am Posts: 1911
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That's good enough for me. You have my vote sir.
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Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:47 am |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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Given the recent correlation between what politicians said before being elected and what they did after being elected, I don't think anyone would believe you anyway  .
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Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:08 am |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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Well, this is what I thought. NI covers: NHS, certain contribution based benefits, and (at one time) used to cover dentistry and eye care.
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Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:53 pm |
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ShockWaffle
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:50 am Posts: 1911
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We don't usually have a link between income source and expenditure in this country.
That's because it sounds like a good idea at the time, but becomes either meaningless (when shortfalls are made up by the general account) or a straight jacket (when a developed nation like the USA is no longer able to maintain highways and bridges adequately because higher mpg and lower car usage means their petrol taxes are no longer sufficient for the purpose).
It's probably ok to fund the BBC that way, but not anything with infrastructure or life and death implications.
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