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UKIP wins Rochester and strood
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TheFrenchun
Officially Mrs saspro
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:55 pm Posts: 4955 Location: on the naughty step
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:53 am |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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In actual fact it's 'Tory constituency re-elects Tory MP wearing different badge'. I'm not sure how much we can read into these by-elections given the ones UKIP have won have both been with the incumbent defecting to UKIP - we've yet to see them fight a seat they don't already hold, in effect. I kind of expect them to cause a certain amount of chaos at the general election but I don't for see them ending up with a lot of seats.
One thing though, it now seems LD = Lost Deposit. I hope you lot think four years in some sad, washed out version of power was enough to flush your party's entire future down the toilet for.
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:55 am |
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TheFrenchun
Officially Mrs saspro
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:55 pm Posts: 4955 Location: on the naughty step
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Greens did a very respectable score. Back when i was a yoof, rebelious teens would vote for anarchy, communists, greens. How did the switch go to everyone voting UKIP 
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:00 am |
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davrosG5
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:37 am Posts: 6954 Location: Peebo
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Try a decade of the Daily Fail and others screaming about how immigrants are here to nick your job and undermine the NHS and the main political parties failing pretty much completely to pay any attention to the concerns of the bulk of the country.
_________________ When they put teeth in your mouth, they spoiled a perfectly good bum. -Billy Connolly (to a heckler)
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:27 am |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
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There does come a point where you can't really dismiss UKIP votes as 'protest votes' any more. I'm not sure we're at that stage yet but I'd say the idea that the major party's behaviour has left a large chunk of people feeling disenfranchised is pretty much beyond argument. In that case, those votes are going to go somewhere.
If Tesco stops selling a product I like and I therefore go and shop at Asda instead, that's not 'protest shopping', it's just shopping somewhere that I feel better fulfils my needs.
I suppose the test is the general election - surely one of the attributes of of a 'protest vote' is it's a vote cast when it doesn't feel like the result matters. I'm not sure many people 'protest vote' at a general election...
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:38 am |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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That’s like saying “Tesco no longer stocks my favourite brand of beans, so I’ll go to Asda’ - problem being that ALL that Asda advertises is the beans, and they won’t tell you directly that they stock anything else, or even IF they stock anything else. When you get to Asda, sure, the beans are there, but so’s the ivory, tiger pelts and whale meat. And it’s a two-slice of whale minimum purchase if you want the beans.
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:57 am |
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davrosG5
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:37 am Posts: 6954 Location: Peebo
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Nicely put Sir!
_________________ When they put teeth in your mouth, they spoiled a perfectly good bum. -Billy Connolly (to a heckler)
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:26 am |
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MrStevenRogers
Spends far too much time on here
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 pm Posts: 4860
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well done UKIP ...
they also won the local council elections as well ...
_________________ Hope this helps . . . Steve ...
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:32 am |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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I think you're over analysing the analogy just a tad 
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:33 pm |
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ShockWaffle
Doesn't have much of a life
Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:50 am Posts: 1911
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A large proportion of people feel disenfranchised because what they want is cheap demagoguery. That's all that UKIP can offer, because they are unprincipled. It's all that some people want, because they are thick.
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:45 pm |
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John_Vella
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:55 am Posts: 7935 Location: Manchester.
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Wait, so... Asda stock whale meat? Is this a national thing, or is it just in your local store? What...? Seriously? You expected a sensible answer? From me? OK, how's this for an idea... I will vote for the first party who employ a leader that I wouldn't really like to punch in the face. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
_________________John Vella BSc (Hons), PGCE - Still the official forum prankster and crude remarker  Sorry  I'll behave now. Promise 
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:56 pm |
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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Well.... actually, no.. I was replying to Paul. You're asking for the moon on a stick!
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Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:07 pm |
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hifidelity2
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm Posts: 5041 Location: London
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Mmmmm whale meat 
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Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:24 am |
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