Milton Keynes school turns away 29 girls for not dressing 'demurely' | Education | The Guardian
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I fully agree with the campaigner there.

What a load of tosh.

We had school uniform and some girly got sent home, and some boys. There are rules and it is very simple to stay within the bounds. If you don't, then you get sent home. And that was back in the late 70s and early 80s.

It has nothing to do victim blaming, it has everything to do with following the rules. Dress code is a rule that will keep coming back to haunt you throughout your life, so just get used to it.

My wife was watching Heidi Klum's Next Top Model last night and one of the girls was "surprised" when a client berated her for turning up at a casting wearing flip-flops! Is that victim blaming or just common sense, that you wear suitable attire?

I have to wear suitable clothing every day to work. That isn't victim blaming, that is a socieatal rule.

This isn't about sensible clothing, it's about supposedly inappropriate clothing, with the emphasis being placed on the girls to dress down and not excite the boys! Last time I checked it was 2016...

Same thing, at the end of the day.

They are told what the school uniform is, they ignored the rules, they get sent home.

Whether you say they were dressing provocatively or that the rules say the skirt has to be below the knees and theirs were above the knee makes no difference. It is just in the formulation of the wording, the one form is boring, the other sells newspapers.

I'd love to know if somebody goes around checking to see how tight the boys' trousers are, put it that way.

People complain when schools impose a uniform, invariably limiting the number of places that sell that uniform and denying parent the opportunity to shop around for the best value. So, schools set a dress code instead and it gets abused. School steps in to deal with it and the complaints start again.

Slow news day?

I don't know about too tight, but at my school several boys were sent home for wrong colour trousers, shoes or pullovers, school insignia missing from blazer etc.

The argument is if you think a dress/uniform policy is necessary or not. That's a fair argument to have.

However if you have one, you stick to it, and people who ignore it should face the sanctions detailed in the policy. Once the rule is in place, the argument about whether it should be there or not is over, the argument then is about rules and the consequences of breaking them. if you let kids get away with breaking some rules, human nature is they're then going to see which other rules they can break as well. and that will usually end very badly.

There are two different issues here and they've been conflated.

As other have said - there is a uniform policy/dress code. It's been enforced.
However, the way the dress code is written or possibly just how the head teacher responded responded to the question brought in a second issue:

Whether the dress code applies different standards to boys and girls and whether the standards that are applied to the girls dress code can be considered discriminatory or whatever.
Take for instance the provision about not wearing tight trousers. That can legitimately be applied to both genders without prejudice. It's not clear from the original article whether that's the case or if the prohibition on tight trousers only applies to the girls.
However, saying specifically that girls can't wear tight trousers because they'll make them more arousing to the opposite sex is a different issue - it puts the onus on the women not to be provocative rather than on both sides to keep their selves under control. It's ultimately heading down the same path as saying someone was 'asking for it' because of what they were wearing in a case of sexual assault. It's an argument I personally find deeply troubling.

At my school, some of the girls used to bring civvies with them and change into them, as soon as they were outside the school gates... The boys (and most of the girls) usually just couldn't be bothered. We would walk home and change into jeans and t-shirts to play.

maybe schools would be happier if the 'girls' wore very long dresses and head scarfs ...

To be fair, it's hard trying to find trousers in anything other than skinny fcuking fit these day, men's included. I tried last weekend, impossible to find something in a regular fit!


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I always bus comfort fit trousers. No shortage of them over here.

Last time out, I bought 2 jeans and 2 chinos with comfort fit for 80€.