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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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No, not Nigella. She does a different kind of warming. Mostly with pies. No, Nigel Lawson wants an enquiry over how global warming data was massaged to make it sound worse than it probably is. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/enviro ... ation.html
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Linux_User
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 3:29 pm Posts: 7173
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Nigel Lawson was an idiot when he was in Cabinet and he's still an idiot now.
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:53 pm |
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ethelredalready
Occasionally has a life
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:10 am Posts: 119 Location: West Wales
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He is a Tory ergo he is an idiot! 'nuff said. There is Zero (0) nill, no evidence that any cheating or fiddling of results has taken place. We are not in Mendel territory. This is a politically motivated leak designed to screw-up the debate. Today's Gruaniad has an excellent dissection of the real agenda look HERE for the lowdown. Anyone who thinks its all a fraud should take themselves off to some of the World';s lower-lying places like Tuvalu, Bangladesh or the Maldives, where real-estate should be pretty cheap.....
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LaptopAcidXperience
Occasionally has a life
Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 10:01 am Posts: 433 Location: Harrogate
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WTF does he know, he should stick to presenting Late Review on Thursday night after Newsnight.
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:43 pm |
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HeatherKay
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 7262 Location: Here, but not all there.
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Heh-heh. Good joke. 
_________________My Flickr | Snaptophobic BloggageHeather Kay: modelling details that matter. "Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:17 pm |
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paulzolo
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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This is because the full data for certain key items of evidence has not been made available for scrutiny, and attempts to get hold of it has been met with derision. The fact that the data is not available in a form that can allow it to be scrutinised is clearly problematic. http://www.globalwarming.org/2009/10/19 ... -it-fraud/and To me, this says that there is selective data manipulation at work. I am not disputing that there are climate changes - this is a planet, and it has a changeable climate. However, I do not believe that we have the full picture, and I feel that it is very misguided to take a fragment of the picture and extrapolate a whole from it.
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Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:54 pm |
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LaptopAcidXperience
Occasionally has a life
Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 10:01 am Posts: 433 Location: Harrogate
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Now Michael Mann's at it, no wonder his films have gone down hill in recent years.
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jonbwfc
What's a life?
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:26 pm Posts: 17040
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That could just mean they did a proper job. You can't use the fact there is a lack of evidence as proof there has been no tampering with evidence. It's just not logical. The only way to be sure there has been no tampering is by having an independent review. In this sense, the former throwing-tons-of-our-money-down-a-big-hole minister is entirely correct. However, I think it would be an awfully hard task to find someone who was a) Qualified to review the data b) Independent. so I don't think it's practical, however much of a good idea it is in theory. Jon
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adidan
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:43 pm Posts: 5048
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I'd welcome a review. I mean it wasn't so long ago that, with regard to theoretical computer generated models of climate change, Nature Geoscience reported: From clickyInstead of trying to randomly waste money that, effectively, is like trying to put out a bush fire by pissing on it, why don't we use that money to adapt our societies to deal with the changing climate? The propensity for this arrogant human belief that we can affect every natural eventuality through our actions will be at the root of our demise.
_________________ Fogmeister I ventured into Solitude but didn't really do much. jonbwfc I was behind her in a queue today - but I wouldn't describe it as 'bushy'.
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HeatherKay
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 7262 Location: Here, but not all there.
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_________________My Flickr | Snaptophobic BloggageHeather Kay: modelling details that matter. "Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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