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Erbistock villagers quoted £550,000 for broadband link
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Amnesia10
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-nort ... s-11166119It looks like BT was profiteering. It should lose the local loop.
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Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:07 pm |
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JJW009
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It's more likely that Rutland have quoted the installation at a large loss, hoping to recoup the costs via line rental over the next few years. I expect if you look at the contract it will be for a minimum term of several years. We do the same thing, because the excess charges involved in laying miles of cable are usually too much to swallow in one go.
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Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:32 pm |
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Amnesia10
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It does depend if they can actually retain the customer for the period to recover those costs. Though the difference is so large that they could never hope to recover the extra £450 000 over say ten years. So the charge of BT over charging still stands.
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Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:27 pm |
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jonbwfc
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And BT couldn't do this because...? Given the difference in question is HALF A MILLION POUNDS I think a) Rutland telecom have an unusually long term view of profit earnings for a private company. b) BT were doing the old 'we can't be arsed to do this so quote them a ludicrous price and they'll go away' trick. Me, I'm thinking b). And, as usual, BT end up with egg on it's face. Jon
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Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:27 pm |
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Amnesia10
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So what about the universal service obligation? No matter how you look at it, BT are plonkers.
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Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:00 pm |
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bobbdobbs
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it seems they are only obliged to provide narrowband access and not broad band.
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Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:39 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Yes but they can still sell it as up to 8 Mbits when you may only get 28.8kbits. 
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Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:46 pm |
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Linux_User
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As previously stated there is no USO (Universal Service Obligation) with regard to broadband internet access. It's something the European Commission is looking into, but it will most likely be several years before any such proposal comes into force.
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Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:24 pm |
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Amnesia10
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With a right wing government in power it will never happen.
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Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:35 pm |
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Linux_User
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What? It's happening at a European level, not at Westminster.
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Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:06 pm |
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big_D
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Which is what BT should be doing... The village won't be going anywhere, so they can recoup their investment over 10 or 20 years. The only thorn in this plan is the bloody stock exchange and share holders, who want money the next quarter and aren't interested in the long-term health of the company. 
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Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:18 am |
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Amnesia10
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Two points. BT were profiteering. Making a profit is not a bad thing, but ripping off a community is bordering on criminal or should be.
Second what is the point of underpricing installation to get a contract. They could have used Rutland to install it and then after the initial tie in contract switched thereby eliminating any returns for the installer. There is no twenty year return any longer, not with the option to switch to new providers.
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Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:56 am |
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ProfessorF
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Meh. ~65% of the world's population doesn't have a phone line.
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Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:58 am |
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Amnesia10
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BT drop £550,000 village broadband quote to £100 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11287904
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Tue Sep 14, 2010 10:39 am |
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jonbwfc
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 It's amazing what a few week's worth of technological advancement can do isn't it. Actually, if I was them, I'd tell BT to shove it. Jon
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