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Plane stowaway plunges thousands of feet onto London street 
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Or (even if a body at -40c could shatter) could he have frozen to that point in a flight. Just becasue it's -40 in the wheel well doesn't mean his body core would have time to drop that low after death.

Well he'd have been 'thawing out' on the way down, but that's not very much.

Assuming he was only say a thousand metres up when they opened the wheel bays and he fell out, he'd have been dropping for roughly a minute (1000m at 120MPH, roughly terminal velocity for a human sized & shaped object). That's not a lot of defrosting time in the fall, even with the heat created by friction. You could alternatly assume he'd been thawing out since the plane started to descend, which could be 10 or 15 minutes or so. Still not very long really if he was supposedly frozen solid.

Given he didn't hit the street like a cannon ball you'd have to assume he wasn't solid when he hit the ground. Or there'd be a big hole as well as bits all over the place.

Indeed. Mythbusters should drop a mannequin filled with frozen chicken breasts out of a helicopter at 1000 feet, see how defrosted they are when they pick up the bits on the ground...

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Indeed. Mythbusters should drop a mannequin filled with frozen chicken breasts out of a helicopter at 1000 feet, see how defrosted they are when they pick up the bits on the ground...

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I would think that a frozen pig carcass would be just as accurate. It would also be frozen to a temperature closer to that of an undercarriage bay. Its size would also allow them to replicate the thermal transmission effects of the heating as it fell more accurately.

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I don't believe for a second he would have had time to defrost, I'm questioning how much he would have frozen in the first place.

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If the article is correct, the flight was from North Africa. I don't think the flight time from there is all that long, maybe five hours? Not long enough to freeze much in a domestic freezer (which I think are around -5 aren't they?). Dunno about high altitude cold, which is more like -50.


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A domestic freezer should be -20C to work safely for all products.

However as this question is biology based then the answer will always be - it depends on the surface area to volume ratio.

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