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Amnesia10
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Don't you count the sun beds of Spain? 
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Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:57 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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Just on the RoI front Only the scumbags and the truly deluded North and South were unhappy about that one 
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Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:07 pm |
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Linux_User
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Shame no-one on the mainland was asked what they think. Personally I'd rather see Ireland reunified under the banner of the Republic.
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Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:10 pm |
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pcernie
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It's as likely as reverting all the other geographical history - America, Australia, Argentina... That's just some of the A's 
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Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:25 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Well as a Brit with an Irish passport I think that only the Irish (north and south of border) can solve this. We must support what ever decision they take. Though with the state of the republics economy I doubt that even the Republicans in the north want to switch the pound for the Euro right now. 
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Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:31 pm |
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Linux_User
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No offence, but that's utter crap. You're basically saying the people of Great Britain get lumped with Northern Ireland whether they like it or not, despite opinion polls consistently showing mainland support for a unified Ireland. Northern Ireland is the only constituent country of the United Kingdom which actually wants Northern Ireland to stay in the United Kingdom.
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Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:23 am |
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Amnesia10
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So the people of Northern Ireland have no say in the matter? I have friends in Galway who really were not that bothered about unification. That was even more true when Ireland was booming. They were as concerned about the increase in non Catholics who would influence divorce and abortion laws that would happen with unification.
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Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:43 am |
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Of course they do, but they shouldn't have the only say.
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Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:44 am |
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Amnesia10
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Oh personally I would want a unified Ireland. Only if supported by all.
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Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:46 am |
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Personally I think the rest of the Union is entitled to throw NI out, much like England should be getting a say in the upcoming Scots referendum - ie. the English should be given the option of breaking away from Scotland, should they so desire.
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Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:48 am |
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pcernie
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Can you link to any of these opinion polls? I'm not having a go, I just can't find any. Also, how are you so certain the rest of the UK doesn't want us? You know the North/South links with Scotland alone go a lot further than tribal football support, right? 
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Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:51 am |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_IrelandPresent UK government policy seems to be "ask everyone but England". Of course England should never be able to force another country to stay in the union, but it should definitely get a say in whether it still wants to be tied to the other countries of the UK, be that NI or Scotland.
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Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:08 am |
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Amnesia10
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I will not vote in a referendum for getting rid of the Scots or the Northern Irish. For Scotland they should decide for themselves. It is none of my business. In the case of Ireland all irish parties should decide. So even as a citizen of the South I would not vote, because as I do not live there. I do not feel I should take part even though I support a united Ireland. The Irish may not want the North. My "British side" also does not want to eject the North, or the Scots.
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Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:14 am |
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That's your prerogative. You can't, however, speak for 50 million other English people (nor can I). At present Scotland, alone, will decide if it stays or goes. Of course no-one should be able to force Scotland to stay in the Union, but the rest of the Union should be able to vote Scotland out. The rule should apply for any nation in the Union - the other nations can't force them to stay, but the other nations can vote them out.
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Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:10 am |
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Amnesia10
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Well what if the other nations decided to eject England? Or England decides to exit? That would not stop the Queen being head of state for the other nations. It would be like Britain deciding that we no longer want the Falklands. The only people who should decide if they stay are the nations or territories concerned. Personally I would not want to see the exit of any of the nations but feel that only they have the right to choose.
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