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MrStevenRogers
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in a court of law a person has to be able to identify the accused in the court when asked or directed by the court anything else other then that direct contact and identification in a court of law is considered heresy are you suggesting we change the law ? ... straw man i maybe but at least im not rusty ...
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MrStevenRogers
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this person is in a court of law they must abide by the court, offensive or otherwise. cant do the time don’t commit the (alleged) crime and i wonder was this person/individual wearing a veil (burqa) at the time of the alleged offence? ...
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Amnesia10
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If she is convicted she will have to go through that when she is strip searched and given her prison clothing.
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rustybucket
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What law is this? Show me the law that states that the face of the defendant has to be visible at all times in the courtroom. Firstly, not true - she must abide by the law. She does not have to abide by the court if what the court asks is not lawful. The court has very limited power to compel a defendant to do anything. The judge, no matter how large a penis I think he is, has at least had the sense to stall court proceedings while the legality of her refusal is debated. Secondly, she isn't there because she has committed a crime - she's there because she is accused of one. Indeed, she has not yet been allowed to enter a plea. Your argument seems to boil down to 'no smoke without fire' - that she wouldn't be there if she weren't guilty and can be unnecessarily asked to do things she finds nasty on the whim of some prat in a wig. The principle of open justice - such that it is - is supposed to prevent abuse of power by the judiciary and executive - it is not there to allow judges to make political points.
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rustybucket
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She hasn't been convicted; she hasn't even entered a plea yet. Even if she were to be convicted and strip-searched, there wouldn't be men in the room - which was rather my point.
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MrStevenRogers
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 |  |  |  | rustybucket wrote: What law is this? Show me the law that states that the face of the defendant has to be visible at all times in the courtroom. Firstly, not true - she must abide by the law. She does not have to abide by the court if what the court asks is not lawful. The court has very limited power to compel a defendant to do anything. The judge, no matter how large a penis I think he is, has at least had the sense to stall court proceedings while the legality of her refusal is debated. Secondly, she isn't there because she has committed a crime - she's there because she is accused of one. Indeed, she has not yet been allowed to enter a plea. Your argument seems to boil down to 'no smoke without fire' - that she wouldn't be there if she weren't guilty and can be unnecessarily asked to do things she finds nasty on the whim of some prat in a wig. The principle of open justice - such that it is - is supposed to prevent abuse of power by the judiciary and executive - it is not there to allow judges to make political points. |  |  |  |  |
British law requires that you are able to identify the accused in any British court of law, when required/requested by the court judge the prosecution or defence solicitors at any time within a court case/hearing please inform me how they can have 'face to face' identification in a open/public court when wearing a burqa, unless you wish to change the law relating to equal rights and heresy also i repeat was this person wearing a 'burqa' at the time the alleged offence took place ? ...
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ShockWaffle
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You made that up didn't you?
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Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:55 pm |
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MrStevenRogers
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_________________ Hope this helps . . . Steve ...
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ShockWaffle
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I don't believe for a second that UK law has some silly rule about pointing at people and they have to have their face out so you can say "is this the lady who...?". That [LIFTED] is for TV.
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