Given that it's you, I don't actually know if you're agreeing to the sarcasm or the actual statement there.

This is mistaken thinking.

Immigrants and asylum seekers are only a drain if they are forced to live on some combination of benefits and cash-in-hand dogsbody work. If they were simply allowed to join the workforce, earn money, rent houses and pay taxes they contribute to growth and help shrink the deficit relative to GDP.

We might not be able to just import 20 million souls tomorrow and integrate them seamlessly, but on the other hand this isn't a zero sum game where imported labourer puts a native out of work either. So from a crass materialist standpoint, we shouldn't worry about being able to afford higher migration, we should merely be looking to provide opportunity for them to contribute.

From a worthier perspective, diaspora communities can be a huge boon to their nations of origin. They gain all sorts of skills and knowledge, managing existing companies and forming new ones of their own over here. Then they transfer some of the money & skills to found new enterprises back in the old country. This has been observable across the poorer regions of the globe for the last decade or so and hundreds of millions have been raised above the poverty line by it (ok, so that line is at about $2/day, but still, progress is progress, right?).

Better still, all those emergent middle class types are much more interested in countering graft, protecting their environment, educating their children and enjoying useful human rights than their dirt poor parents were. The internal pressure to reform corrupt and aloof government becomes so strong when you expand the middle class and people can see beyond their next meal that even China is making some progress <insert many caveats - it's never a speedy process>

Reverting one more time to crass self interest. In a world shaped by irreversible globalization, the UK can benefit greatly from the expanded trade links that process creates. Protectionism is a self defeating strategy, especially for such a globally connected economy as ours.

stop all overseas aid would be a start and we need to most certainly start to sort our own house out
and i believe that can be done by leaving the EU and only trade with them ...

We are rich, as should be obvious to anyone, because we can afford those debts. There are countries with much larger populations who cannot sustain anything like such a debt without insolvency. By definition, they are poorer than we.

Think about it this way. In the world there are supposedly a one percent and a ten percent and what have you of super f-ing rich people. You are one of them. But if your mortgage and car payments place you in £100,000 of debt, by some illiteracy you might conclude that you are poorer than a man who earns $1 per day and lives in a garbage dump, his net-worth being technically higher than yours. You get to eat pizza, he gets to eat discarded mouldy cabbages, you are richer than he is.

i am agreeing to the statement and to make it perfectly clear. i would sink them mid ocean
only a few of them would need sinking and the flow would stop. this is an invasion ...

its not about richer or poorer its about the ability to live your life as you wish
this lot will bring their baggage with them and carry that baggage out when they arrive. on mass

several reports that i have read indicate they are not happy when the land, no free food, no free housing, no free cloths, no free money. but not one word of thanks ...

let this $hit die, there is no alternative if we wish to remain and advance ourselves ...

I can't tell from that whether you are reading stormfront, the daily mail, or some other idiot nazi nonsense.

the nazi are already landing its happening every day thousands of them, i suggest you get into the real world instead of reality ...

Scale of 1 to 10, how shocked were you when the answer became known?

Non whatsoever, but I wanted to be certain just in case a freak moment of common sense / intelligence / human decency had crept into him.

i am happy that i have risen to meet your criteria
just waiting for the attacks, its going to make 7/7 9/11, Paris and Denmark look like a pussy cat club ...

7/7 bombers - 3 born in UK, 1 in Jamaica
9/11 hijackers - all the hijackers were in USA officially and none of them was a migrant/refugee
Paris - both shooters born in Paris
Denmark - shooter born in Vordingborg, Denmark

Now, now Rusty, let us not let facts get in the way of a spot of rampant racism and idiocy.

your facts forget one thing all the above were influenced, funded and mostly trained from overseas
this lot coming in with these so called refugees are fully trained outside of the EU and UK and are not in anyway, shape or form home grown

when they kick off, as they will, ho hum ...

And this is a discussion about immigration, what's your point?