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Fogmeister
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See my earlier post.  
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:42 am |
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belchingmatt
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Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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Is there any fuel saving by not sitting in traffic or having to detour because there are less accidents?
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:44 am |
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l3v1ck
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Doubt it. I find it annoying and distracting when people have their lights on in the day. I doubt it'll reduce the crash rate.
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:18 am |
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Zippy
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:20 pm Posts: 3838 Location: Here Abouts
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I don't think it's necessary and with the number of miles I do it'll just irritate me, especially in the summer when my drive is entirely in the daylight. Mostly due to the number of people who have inappropriate bulbs/badly aligned headlights and dazzle the heck out of me from either the back or front. Fortunately my car won't be one of them and this would actively discourage me from buying a new car.
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:38 am |
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cloaked_wolf
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+1 I don't mind cars being more visible but if it reduces daytime visibility of bikes, something needs to be done. At the moment, I notice bikes quite quickly because of their headlights. Having said that, I wo der what the rates of bike accidents are since DRLs came into force in European countries. Personally, I was planning on retrofitting DRLs in some way, regardless of the planned legislation. My car's headlights already come on when I go over 80mph (typically when overtaking) and stay on for a while. It also automatically comes on in dim conditions. Regardless of vehicle I will always turn on the headlights when it is raining or even if it is a dark/dim day.
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:48 am |
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AlunD
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:12 am Posts: 7011 Location: Wiltshire
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WOW never heard of that before. what is it ? 
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:53 am |
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big_D
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:25 pm Posts: 10691 Location: Bramsche
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Mine do that as well. Most BMWs, Mercedes and other top brands have automatic lights and it is an option on Audi, VW, Ford and Opel, among others.
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:18 pm |
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cloaked_wolf
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VW Golf GTI. Came as standard. Though TBH in retrospect I'd expect in on German vehicles.
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:44 pm |
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rustybucket
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Agreed Seems a bit silly to me. Just introduce a £1000 automatic fine for not using lights appropriately.
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:36 pm |
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l3v1ck
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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I think this is a case of the EU (and governments in general) want to be seen to improve safety without actually caring if safety is really improved.
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:21 pm |
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big_D
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In the countries where it has been implemented, they have allegedly seen a reduction in car accidents.
The only drawback with the scheme is as hifi and I have mentioned, increased risk for motorcyclists...
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:51 pm |
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JJW009
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Perhaps bikes could have a slight blue tint to their headlights? That would make it possible to distinguish them at night also.
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:07 pm |
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belchingmatt
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Bikes have lights that are aimed at your mirror, rather than the road as with cars. Well except Audis, I find the recent models very dazzling compared to almost every other vehicle out there.
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If one is diving so close to the limits that +/- 1% will make a difference then the error has already been made.
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:43 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Yes but if a motorist cannot see a headlight then he/she should be banned for any fatality that they cause. If there was a mandatory 10 year ban for a motorcycle fatality the motorists would pay a lot more attention. It has been shown in the past that drivers do not care if they think that they can get away with it. The case last month of road rage against the copper on the bicycle happens all the time except it is rarely a copper that is run off the road.
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Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:15 pm |
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cloaked_wolf
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You mean like the chavs that drive round with blue-tinted (or worse, just blue) headlights? The problem, IIRC, as you go towards the blue end of the spectrum is that the throw of the light is reduced, so close visibility is very good but distant is poor.
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