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Protesters call for iPhone boycott over factory conditions
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paulzolo
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According to this article: http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/18/foxcon ... st-attack/Wikipedia lists Sony, Apple, Nintendo, Microsoft (XBox), Intel… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FoxconnSo, we all have stuff made by them, they are not just Apple’s manufacturing arm. I bet you all have kit from the list above in one form or another.
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Wed May 26, 2010 9:51 am |
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okenobi
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Which is precisely why I'm making the point that I am. This isn't down to corporations, it's down to the market.
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Wed May 26, 2010 10:20 am |
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Amnesia10
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I agree but long term it is unsustainable. Also why are Apple being targeted when many other companies are just as culpable now.
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Wed May 26, 2010 10:59 am |
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Nick
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Why just go after Apple though.
These protestors are barking up the wrong tree if you ask me.
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Wed May 26, 2010 11:01 am |
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HeatherKay
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Apple is a big name, a so-called goody-goody corporation that's been put on the pedestal ready to be knocked down.
No-one would take notice if Nokia was badgered about poor working practices in a subcontracted factory.
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Wed May 26, 2010 11:31 am |
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okenobi
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EVERYTHING is unsustainable long term!!!! My point stands. As for Apple, Heather's right. They've set themselves up for it with Jobs' holier-than-thou attitude and clean image.
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Wed May 26, 2010 12:04 pm |
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big_D
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The other point is, there are over 800,000 employees working for Foxconn, that is on a par with a relatively large town or city. What are the suicide rates like for some comparable sized towns? 
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Wed May 26, 2010 4:39 pm |
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paulzolo
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... icide_rateUK: 6.8 per 100,000 people. China: 13.9 per 100,000 people.
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Wed May 26, 2010 6:27 pm |
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Linux_User
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That's a very large city - only Birmingham and London are larger (in the UK). However, I don't think that's a suitable comparison. The NHS employs some 1.3 million people, it'd be interesting to see the suicide rate of NHS staff - at work - to that of Foxconn.
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Wed May 26, 2010 6:38 pm |
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Amnesia10
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On that basis it looks like they are doing better than china overall. Though people working might have lower suicide rates than those who are out of work and depressed.
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Thu May 27, 2010 12:34 am |
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HeatherKay
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An interesting perspective from the Telegraph... http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/malco ... -suicides/ |  |  |  | Quote: ... Foxconn finds itself in the position of continuing to pay 110,000 yuan (£11,000) in compensation to every person who jumps. For a depressed Foxconn employee, who still feels an obligation to repay his family for the cost of his or her upbringing and who would like to give his parents a lump sum that could transform their lives, this is a very tempting sum.
For a worker on the basic rate of 900 yuan a month, the compensation amounts to the equivalent of over ten years of gross salary. For a worker who is doing overtime and earning 1500 yuan a month, the compensation is still worth six years of salary.
If these enormous payments don’t stop, the suicides are unlikely to either. But if Foxconn takes the pragmatic option, there is every chance that its workers, fanned by the media, will revolt at its callousness. I would not want to be in Mr Gou’s shoes. |  |  |  |  |
(Tip of the hat to Dan Gruber, Daring Fireball)
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Sat May 29, 2010 7:52 am |
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big_D
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Mr. Gou was also caught on camera saying that they were busy installing nets, to catch people who jumped! The PR rep quickly stifled him, before he could do any more damage! 
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Sat May 29, 2010 8:14 am |
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Amnesia10
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Next sealing the windows above ground floor to stop jumpers, after that chaining them to the workstations so that they cannot overwhelm the supervisors and open the windows. /s
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