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Apple rejects order to unlock gunman's phone
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paulzolo
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If you have resigned and are working elsewhere? The responsibility with this is the legal entity that is Apple, not the individuals concerned. Tim Cook has made it clear that this is the intention.
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Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:13 pm |
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jonbwfc
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Legally speaking, if they can come up with a mad enough justification that they could actually enforce it upon a company to do it, the same justification could be applied equally to an individual.
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Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:46 pm |
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paulzolo
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I guess so, but I read that the legal measures being used against Apple could equally be used to make Boeing build a new class of 747. I wonder how far the FBI would be willing to go to ensure that Apple complies, and that Apple ensures that employees that are able to make it work to comply.
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Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:50 pm |
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hifidelity2
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Hard for an individual "FBI - unlock that phone" Ex Apple Eng (EAE) "Would love to but I have no access to the code" "FBI - oh"
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Wed Mar 23, 2016 1:55 pm |
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paulzolo
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Seems that they have the capability to unlock the phone without Apple's help. Israel's Cellebrite linked to FBI's iPhone hack attempt http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35883441It would be interesting to know how they a anger this. Either there is a flaw they can exploit, or something more exotic. I rather like the low-tech idea. The notion that choosing a random PIN is impossible, and that there is a a frequency table of probable numbers. Add to that the pattern of smudges on the screen caused by the number being entered repeatedly, could mean that it would take fewer than 10 guesses. Question is, can Apple work out how the phone has been cracked and can they prevent it?
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Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:32 pm |
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Fogmeister
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My question is this... What proof do we have that they actually unlocked the phone? Or even have the possibility of unlocking it?
Seems to me like it's all a facade to try and set a precedent.
If they had continued in court and were eventually denied then they can't really try again. But they didn't continue. They pulled out before it went far enough.
That means they can try again at some point in the future.
I very much doubt they have unlocked that phone. I doubt they even wanted to unlock it in the first place.
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Thu Mar 24, 2016 12:31 am |
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paulzolo
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Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:37 pm |
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jonbwfc
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For Pete's sake. It's well accepted in the intelligence community that the value of any intelligence degrades rapidly after 72 hours. If there actually was any useful information on the phone, by now it's almost certainly utterly useless- People will have changed identity or fled, any supplies or resources will have been moved etc.
Given it now appears pretty likely the FBI has failed it it's bid to get Apple to crack iOS security for them, all that's left now is face-saving and not a lot of that either.
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Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:34 pm |
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paulzolo
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Apparently, there has been some success for the FBI. They have dropped the court order. http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/201 ... er-dropped
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Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:13 am |
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davrosG5
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It was never about getting into that specific phone, it was about setting the precedent and if anything they've actually encouraged more aggressive security features from manufacturers so it's kind of backfired.
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Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:46 am |
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pcernie
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As Apple questions FBI's hacking methods, list of unlock cases grow | TechRadar http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and ... ow-1318120We compel you!
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Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:13 pm |
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pcernie
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San Bernardino iPhone hack won’t work on newer models, says FBI | Technology | The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ames-comeyEver notice how truthful people get in front of students, as if to impress them?
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Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:41 pm |
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pcernie
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Here we go again: US government wants to force Apple to unlock another iPhone | TechRadar http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of- ... ne-1318630FFS.
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Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:37 pm |
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pcernie
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US authorities drop another iPhone fight after being given passcode | Technology | The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... n-passcode
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