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Always avoid big cars with a “Baby on board” sticker in them. They have a wish to kill everyone.


I always assume that sticker refers to the driver.

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No Paul, anyone in a 4x4 (in the afforementioned sense) gets zero tolerance - woman or otherwise. When parking, I avoid anything that looks like it has a mother driving it, because they don't care about knocking my car about and neither do their kids.

Alun, nah, I'm afraid the only thing 4x4 that might get grace from me will be Quattro/Synchro/4Motion and be a "normal" size. So pretty much anything from a MK2 Golf G60 to an RS6. The only exemption to my size rule are VW buses of any vintage if they look cool enough. Shallow, I know, but that's just how it is.


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Alun, nah, I'm afraid the only thing 4x4 that might get grace from me will be Quattro/Synchro/4Motion and be a "normal" size. So pretty much anything from a MK2 Golf G60 to an RS6. The only exemption to my size rule are VW buses of any vintage if they look cool enough. Shallow, I know, but that's just how it is.


Cool I drive an A6 Quattro Sport :D

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Alun, nah, I'm afraid the only thing 4x4 that might get grace from me will be Quattro/Synchro/4Motion and be a "normal" size. So pretty much anything from a MK2 Golf G60 to an RS6. The only exemption to my size rule are VW buses of any vintage if they look cool enough. Shallow, I know, but that's just how it is.


Cool I drive an A6 Quattro Sport :D


Then I defer to you and your awesome vehicle at every possible opportunity :D


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I let Audi Quatros out, just so I can look at them and drool. :mrgreen:

Echoing what others have said, I use the term 4x4 loosely, meaning the great big hulking offroad chelsea tractors.

The ones largely driven by people who:
a) don't need them
b) have no effing idea how to drive them

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No Paul, anyone in a 4x4 (in the afforementioned sense) gets zero tolerance - woman or otherwise. When parking, I avoid anything that looks like it has a mother driving it, because they don't care about knocking my car about and neither do their kids.


I certainly avoid parking next to such vehicles, as well as people carries, cars which look like there could be kids involved. Observation tells me that people with kids don’t care about what happens to the car next to them.

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No Paul, anyone in a 4x4 (in the afforementioned sense) gets zero tolerance - woman or otherwise. When parking, I avoid anything that looks like it has a mother driving it, because they don't care about knocking my car about and neither do their kids.


I certainly avoid parking next to such vehicles, as well as people carries, cars which look like there could be kids involved. Observation tells me that people with kids don’t care about what happens to the car next to them.


Bullshizzle (avoids swear filter). I have a child - only just mind - and not only do I take care not to damage my own or others cars when getting her in and out of the back seat I'm also wary of others banging my own car. Observation tells me you are wrong.

Then again thats what those kid spaces are made for. Lots of room to swing the doors open to heave the child seat out.

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http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/car-tech/average-speed-cameras-coming-for-all-motorways-665952

Thoughts? :oops: ;)


It just goes to show that it's about fine collection and job creation rather than about safety. Motorways are the safest roads in the country.

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pcernie wrote:
http://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/car-tech/average-speed-cameras-coming-for-all-motorways-665952

Thoughts? :oops: ;)


It just goes to show that it's about fine collection and job creation rather than about safety. Motorways are the safest roads in the country.


You may have a point there - I don't drive so can't really comment :)

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No Paul, anyone in a 4x4 (in the afforementioned sense) gets zero tolerance - woman or otherwise. When parking, I avoid anything that looks like it has a mother driving it, because they don't care about knocking my car about and neither do their kids.


I certainly avoid parking next to such vehicles, as well as people carries, cars which look like there could be kids involved. Observation tells me that people with kids don’t care about what happens to the car next to them.


Bullshizzle (avoids swear filter). I have a child - only just mind - and not only do I take care not to damage my own or others cars when getting her in and out of the back seat I'm also wary of others banging my own car. Observation tells me you are wrong.

Then again thats what those kid spaces are made for. Lots of room to swing the doors open to heave the child seat out.


Then you're the exception. Paul's right. Sweeping generalisation maybe, but I've seen it happen too many times.


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Then you're the exception. Paul's right. Sweeping generalisation maybe, but I've seen it happen too many times.


Have you not seen kid-less people swing the doors and bang them into other cars too? I certainly have. I really think its a bit harsh to blame it on families with kids. A door-banging-retard is a door-banging-retard whether they have kids or not IMO. The kind of people who just dont give a toss. Funnily enough though with kid spaces at supermarkets and the like I would have thought the majority of bangs happen in regular spaces by kid-less drivers if anything. The last time my door was banged it was (stupid bloke in a R-reg Frontera).

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okenobi wrote:

Then you're the exception. Paul's right. Sweeping generalisation maybe, but I've seen it happen too many times.


Have you not seen kid-less people swing the doors and bang them into other cars too? I certainly have. I really think its a bit harsh to blame it on families with kids. A door-banging-retard is a door-banging-retard whether they have kids or not IMO. The kind of people who just dont give a toss. Funnily enough though with kid spaces at supermarkets and the like I would have thought the majority of bangs happen in regular spaces by kid-less drivers if anything. The last time my door was banged it was (stupid bloke in a R-reg Frontera).


I have seen it, but far less frequently. The main thing with mothers, is they're too busy to care. Then the kids don't care, so it's a double whammy. As for kid spaces, you see it far more often in multi-storeys than supermarkets. There the threat is more wayward trolleys really. People with kids just seem to have a different attitude to "stuff". I realise it's not as important as your child, but I still care about it and I'd like you to recognise that. Just because parents are used to having their homes/cars/hi-fi/possessions wrecked by their kids, doesn't mean I am.


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I'm really not going to accept the generalisations in that last post. The suggestion that parents are used to their stuff being wrecked so dont give a toss about others is ridiculous.

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I'm really not going to accept the generalisations in that last post. The suggestion that parents are used to their stuff being wrecked so dont give a toss about others is ridiculous.


+1 agreed, more likely parents have differing priorities e.g. the safety of their kids.

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I let Audi Quatros out, just so I can look at them and drool. :mrgreen:

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