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Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:19 pm ] | |||||||||
Post subject: | The 'loophole lawyers' who help clients beat motoring charge | |||||||||
http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2010/aug/ ... ng-charges
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Author: | veato [ Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:32 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 'loophole lawyers' who help clients beat motoring charge |
I'm on the fence. Hypothetically Mr Beckham is doing 100mph and gets off as the camera was not calibrated that morning. Chances are the calibration is not so far off that he was actually doing 70mph. So he gets off on a technicality. But what about those who might be caught by the same incorrectly calibrated equipment who weren't speeding beyond the allowable limits and otherwise (with correctly calibrated equipment) would not be 'caught'? Just a thought. |
Author: | l3v1ck [ Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:11 am ] | |||||||||
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If the cameras were any use they'd pay for themselves, so could be left on. If they're being turned off due to funding cuts, they obviously weren't catching enough people. I find those "speed reminder" cameras much better. ou know, the ones that clock you and tell you how fast you're going. A gentle reminder to slow down is a much better way to do it. |
Author: | pcernie [ Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:23 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 'loophole lawyers' who help clients beat motoring charge |
Over here the Public Prosecution Service is so useless you could defend yourself ![]() |
Author: | forquare1 [ Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:36 am ] | |||||||||
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Plus it lets everyone around you know how fast you were going... I'd like to see statistics for the amount of people who get caught speeding and then have a speed related accident in the same journey. |
Author: | rustybucket [ Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 'loophole lawyers' who help clients beat motoring charge |
I'd like to see Tailgating cameras. Not sure how they'd work though ![]() |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:03 pm ] | |||||||||
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Apparently they cost a fifth of a GATSO camera and are even more effective. Put these at all blackspots and save money as well. |
Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:56 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 'loophole lawyers' who help clients beat motoring charge |
Personally I feel that speed cameras should go back to what they were used for - trying to help reduce accident blackspots. Let's say you have a hidden hairpin bend. A speed camera warning sign, followed by a speed camera around the corner would be fine - whoever was still speeding in a notoriously dangerous area despite being warned deserves to be penalised. By reducing speed cameras to those key areas, you improve the seriousness with which they're perceived. However, given excessive speed accounts for something like 2% of RTAs, it seems silly to concentrate on speed when the bigger issues are: 1. Road surface - poor quality roads can mean poor grip in the dry and horrendous grip in the wet. 2. Driver not paying due attention There's some other factors that I cba'd to look up but essentially, speeding isn't the problem. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:52 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 'loophole lawyers' who help clients beat motoring charge |
Speed is an easy target that is why. I think that they should make people re-sit their driving test every ten years and automatically after any ban. That would get many off the road in the first place and mean that there is an incentive to not learn bad habits because you would need to retrain them out after you fail the next test. |
Author: | cloaked_wolf [ Thu Aug 26, 2010 12:23 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: The 'loophole lawyers' who help clients beat motoring charge |
But it's not difficult to take four or five lessons beforehand to help get rid of your bad habits and then go back to driving in a haphazard style afterwards. A few people may learn better driving skills but the ones who are dangerous on the roads are the ones who could pass a driving test in my experience. |
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