Some 77% of Britons think taxpayers should not help pay for Pope Benedict XVI's visit to Scotland and England, a survey suggests.

An online poll of 2,005 adults issued by think tank Theos also found 79% had "no personal interest" in his visit.

The Pope is due to arrive on 16 September, the first papal visit since Pope John Paul II's 1982 trip.

The cost of the trip to UK taxpayers, previously estimated at £8m, could rise to between £10m and £12m.

The Catholic Church is also expected to make a contribution of between £9m and £10m towards the costs, which do not include an expected multi-million pound bill for policing the visit.

In the Theos survey, some 76% also rejected taxpayer funding for the visit on the grounds that the Pope was a religious figure.

Nearly one in four - 24% - agreed with the statement "I don't approve of the Pope's visit to Britain" with 49% disagreeing.

Under a third, or 29%, said they believed the visit would be good for Britain while 33% disagreed.

Earlier this week, a survey of 1,000 Scots found just 2% were "strongly opposed" to the visit, with more than 15 times as many people saying they were in favour of it.

Another 3% in the survey carried out by Opinion Research Business for the Roman Catholic Church, said they "objected" to the pontiff's visit to Scotland. Some 63% said they were "neither for nor against the visit".

Social teaching

In the Theos survey, researchers also put 12 statements - taken without naming the source - from the Pope's third encyclical letter which outlines his social policy, to people taking part in the survey.

A majority backed 11 out of the 12 extracts, including 82% agreeing with the statement "technologically advanced societies can and must lower their domestic energy consumption".

Some 79% agreed with the Pope's statement "the natural environment is more than raw material to be manipulated at our pleasure".

Paul Wolley, director of Theos - a religious think tank - said the British public "clearly had a problem" with the funding of the papal visit, possibly because they were unaware that in addition to being a religious leader Pope Benedict was also a head of state.

"It is only a relatively small proportion of people who are actively opposed to the visit itself. On the whole, the public is more disengaged than hostile.

"What is really striking is not simply that the public tends to agree with Pope Benedict's social teaching but that they agree so strongly.

"This confirms the view that beneath the terrible stories of sex abuse that have dominated coverage of the Catholic church in recent times, there remains real potential for the church to connect with the public."
Added value

The non-religious British Humanist Association welcomed the Theos poll, saying that "most people agree with us" that the British public should not be "footing the bill" for a state visit by the Pope.

A spokesman for the Catholic Bishops' Conference however said it was pleased the survey showed the majority of people agreed with Catholic social teaching.

"It is also good to see that so many people in the UK approve of this historic visit. The Pope will bring a message of hope to all, showing that faith in God is not a problem to be solved but a gift to be discovered afresh by all.

"While there is considerable discussion and debate in the lead up to the Pope's visit, once he arrives and people see him and hear what he has to say they will give him a warm welcome."

Jack Valero, a member of Catholic Voices, an organisation representing Roman Catholics, told BBC's Radio 5 Live that the economic activity generated by the Pope's visit would eclipse the expense of the visit.

He said a study for Glasgow City's marketing bureau had worked out that Glasgow and Edinburgh would accrue about £13m because of extra people visiting as well as the "media (and) advertising value" to the two cities.

A Government spokesman said: "The Holy See is an internationally-recognised nation with significant influence across the world, while the Catholic Church has a billion adherents.

"The Pope is visiting at the invitation of the Queen. It is right and proper that the British Government should pay a share of the costs of the visit."

The British Humanist Association welcomed the Theos poll saying that "most people agree with us" that the British public should not be "footing the bill" for a state visit by the Pope.

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With any luck, him and his organisation as it stands today will be dead soon

I'm happy to pay for the security, but I'm incensed that we should pay for anything else, is that true, really?

Well technically the Queen is the head of a religion as well. So the religious reason also affects the Queen, even though she is head of state as well.

At least she's the head of state of a real country.

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Henry VIII is turning in his grave.

The head of the Catholic Church in England and Wales has said it is right that UK taxpayers should help pay for the Pope's trip to Britain.

Critics are angry that up to £12m is to come from the public purse.

But Archbishop of Westminster Vincent Nichols told the BBC it would be a "sad day" when the UK "closes its doors and says we can't afford state visits".

He also hinted the Pope may meet victims of the Catholic abuse scandal during this month's four-day visit.

Pope Benedict XVI will arrive in Scotland on 16 September for first papal visit since Pope John Paul II in 1982.

This trip, which will also include events in London and Birmingham, will be the first ever official state visit to Britain by a serving Pontiff.

An online poll of 2,005 people, published this week, found 79% had "no personal interest" in the visit.

The survey, by think tank Theos, also found 77% thought taxpayers should not help pay for it.

But Archbishop Nichols told the BBC's Andrew Marr programme it was right the taxpayer and the Church shared the bill because the Pope was coming at the invitation of the government.

"It is a state visit, and the day that this country closes its doors and says we can't afford state visits is a very sad day because it would be a real gesture of isolationism," he said.

"And I think we should remember that the Pope comes as the spiritual leader of one in five of all the people on this planet, so this is not a minor figure, as it were.

"This is the leader of probably the oldest international institution, that serves humanity in a tremendous way right around the globe."

Asked whether the Pope would meet victims of abuse, Archbishop Nichols said: "The pattern of his last five or six visits has been that he has met victims of abuse.

"But the rules are very clear - that is done without any pre-announcement, it is done in private and it is done confidentially, which is quite right and proper. So I think we have to wait and see."

He said he did not think the abuse scandal would "overshadow everything else about this visit", adding: "This is an issue we have to take seriously, but it's not the whole story."

'Taken seriously'

Earlier this week, an aide to Archbishop Nichols, Edmund Adamus, told Catholic news agency Zenit that Britain had become a "selfish, hedonistic wasteland".

But the Archbishop said he disagreed with that assessment.

"I think our society is characterised as much by generosity and genuine concern of one for another, and I think religious faith is taken quite seriously by probably a majority of people in this country."

He said he accepted there would be protests during the Pope's visit, but added: "I'm sure it will be done in a proper manner. After all, this country has a great tradition of hospitality towards its guests and this is a very important guest."

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The government should have known better

I think this was arranged under the last lot, whose last leader but one converted to Catholicism. I wonder if there's a connection...

A quick Google says Gordon invited him last year, unfortunately. I don't suppose there was ever any real hope of the coalition saying, 'We can't really afford it (you paedo protector!)'

The pope can f*ck off!!

I much prefer the older system where you had a choice of popes.

what he said

Ditto

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Lock-up your sons!