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| Author: | pcernie [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Panasonic predicts the death of direct LED TVs |
Direct LED TVs will soon disappear from the shelves and be replaced by cheaper Edge LED and plasma screens. That's according to Markus Wagenseil, Panasonic's technical marketing manager. Speaking to TechRadar in Berlin last week, Wagenseil said that Direct LED technology is not viable and will be extinct within two years. "For direct LED LCD we don't feel there is a market any more because the price pressure on TVs is incredibly high," he said. "[There are so many more] LEDs that you need to mount in comparison to Edge LED, and anyway there are big shortages in LED production, so I don't think there is a market for direct LED." Of course, this begged the question – if there's no market for Direct LED TVs, why are there so many coming out from the likes of LG and Philips? "I would put it more the other way around," said Wagenseil, "more and more companies are dropping the concept. Edge LED is the way forward for the LCD market." The Panasonic man also cast doubt on LCD's prospects for finally overhauling plasma in terms of picture quality. "Comparing CCFL with Edge LED I think most people would agree that in terms of picture quality Edge LED is not a big gain. It was a gain in slimness and it was a gain in power consumption, but in terms of picture quality this technology has some serious disadvantages." The riposte Of course, it goes without saying that other TV manufacturers have a totally different opinion on the prospects of Direct LED's future as a viable technology. Danny Tack, the mastermind behind much of Philips' LCD advances over the last few years, says that Direct LED is viable and has a future. He told TechRadar that Direct LED tech will continue to be developed until it's possible to make TVs as slim as those using Edge LED. "It is expensive, that's true. But it also makes a difference, so if you position yourself and develop it right you can find a compromise between cost and performance. And I strongly believe as Philips, where we have lots of direct LED products with quite a substantial amount of segments because that makes sense for the performance, that there is a market for it and we will continue so. "For me the challenge is to get the Direct LED as thin as the edge-lit. We see that people are willing to pay for this kind of performance, so what we need to do now is combine that with the thin form-factor of edge-lit – keep the performance and make it thinner. And then direct LED will remain to exist." What does it all mean? It's not massively surprising that Philips is still keen on Direct LED - after all, it doesn't make any plasma screens at all and Direct LED represents the top-end in terms of LCD tech. However, it is more surprising that Panasonic - which makes both LCD and plasma TVs - would condemn Direct LED so swiftly. Wagenseil refused to comment on whether Panasonic is going to change its strategy in terms of its LCD business, but if it doesn't see a future in Direct LED it's hard to see them persevering with the tech. Wagenseil and Tack also both had some extremely interesting and contrasting views on the merits of plasma and LCD tech in terms of 3D performance, so check back soon for more on that. http://www.techradar.com/news/televisio ... tvs-714699 |
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Panasonic predicts the death of direct LED TVs |
They are both dead. As soon as OLED becomes comparatively cheap then I will be getting one of those instead. Direct LED or Edge LED is irrelevant once OLED hits the market. |
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| Author: | soddit112 [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:26 pm ] | |||||||||
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that wont be for an awfully long time though (6 grand for a 31" at the moment), and there needs to be a stopgap until that happens. LED LCD fits that gap nicely for now |
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:42 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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I did say comparatively cheap. I cant afford that price and it will only be a few years before they do get cheap. What technology that is in the market now will be tweaked until OLED comes out in force. |
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| Author: | tombolt [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Panasonic predicts the death of direct LED TVs |
I'll be going plasma anyway when I take the plunge, I think. |
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:23 pm ] | |||||||||
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Have you seen the power drain of the big plasmas? 400W in some cases. That is more than 4 times my new LCD usage. |
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| Author: | tombolt [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Panasonic predicts the death of direct LED TVs |
I'm more interested in the picture quality though really! |
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:18 pm ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Panasonic predicts the death of direct LED TVs | |||||||||
Same here. I checked the reviews before I bought. |
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| Author: | l3v1ck [ Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:31 pm ] | |||||||||
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Panasonic predicts the death of direct LED TVs |
The problem for TV manufacturers is that much of the western world are saturated with TV"s and only need replacements. If people move to new larger places then they might get new bigger TV's in every room but the credit crunch has probably impacted on them very hard. I read that TV's were piling up as they were not being sold and that was before the 3D TV's came out. I doubt that many will be buying 3D. Many think that it is a fad. OLED is still a few years away so that would boost sales but until then they need to find a reason for people to upgrade. |
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| Author: | l3v1ck [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Panasonic predicts the death of direct LED TVs |
I'll be sticking with my CRT TV until OLED become affordable. |
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:18 am ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Panasonic predicts the death of direct LED TVs | |||||||||
I was planning to do that but the TV in the bedroom started showing signs of going so it needed to be replaced. In the end I bought a 32" HD TV for £350, though with some coupons got it for under £300. A friend bought a 37" for more than double, though his has a faster refresh. |
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| Author: | tombolt [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Panasonic predicts the death of direct LED TVs |
I've got a Sony wega and the picture for sd is amazing, was just waiting for hd to get more popular before taking the plunge as sd on an hd telly looks worse. |
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| Author: | HeatherKay [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:44 am ] | |||||||||
| Post subject: | Re: Panasonic predicts the death of direct LED TVs | |||||||||
It depends. I've noticed now that a lot of shows are being produced with HD equipment, the overall quality on SD Freeview is increasing markedly - especially on the Beeb. |
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| Author: | Amnesia10 [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Panasonic predicts the death of direct LED TVs |
I have got a SD cable service and an HD TV yet the TV is actually quite acceptable. |
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