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Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:56 am ]
Post subject:  NI cards to be axed to save money

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11255074

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National Insurance cards are to be phased out, and spare furniture sold online, under government plans to cut the deficit, the BBC has learned.

The government has also decided to cut the number of criminal checks for junior doctors.

The ideas, expected to save at least £1m a year, were chosen from about 100,000 put forward by members of the public and civil servants.

One union said getting the public to suggest cuts was a gimmick.

During the summer, the Treasury set up a website looking for suggestions on how to save money, eventually receiving more than 100,000.

The National Insurance idea involves replacing the card with a letter for people reaching the age of 16 from late next year. It will tell them their unique NI number.

So a £1 million a year, hardly worth it. I got the letter no card but I can see the point but is it really going to help?

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Criminal Record Bureau checks for junior doctors moving between postings will no longer be carried out every six months under the plans.

In future, hospitals would be allowed to use their own "judgement", the coalition said.

And that will protect who?

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And for spare furniture, an eBay-style website would be used to sell off old items such as computers and office furniture.

No need to leave data on trains. Just sell it on eBay! :roll:

Author:  forquare1 [ Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:01 am ]
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I think it's a step in the right direction, but I hope this isn't some facade and they'll spend extra elsewhere...

Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:28 am ]
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The issue with CRB checks can end up being a bit ridiculous. On average, a junior doctor will fill 2-3 CRB forms per year. The enchanced check is £36. There are, according to one source, around 50,000 junior doctors in the UK.

Not a huge amount of savings compared to the billions that need to be cut but I guess "every little helps".

Author:  Fogmeister [ Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:37 am ]
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LOL, I haven't seen mine in years. No idea where it is.

I still remember my NI number though which is quite random as I haven't thought about it for at least 2 and a half years and that was when I filled in my details for my current job.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: NI cards to be axed to save money

cloaked_wolf wrote:
The issue with CRB checks can end up being a bit ridiculous. On average, a junior doctor will fill 2-3 CRB forms per year. The enchanced check is £36. There are, according to one source, around 50,000 junior doctors in the UK.

Not a huge amount of savings compared to the billions that need to be cut but I guess "every little helps".

Yes but the NHS are protected from the cuts, though it looks like the NHS are making the cuts anyway because they know that they will come eventually.

Author:  paulzolo [ Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:47 pm ]
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cloaked_wolf wrote:
The issue with CRB checks can end up being a bit ridiculous. On average, a junior doctor will fill 2-3 CRB forms per year.


Which seems ridiculous. I filled in a CRB form for my other half’s school as I occasionally do things there. The problem is that CRB form covers just that school, not the LEA, nor the country. The head teacher, who visits other schools, has to get a CRB for each school he visits. That’s a lot of duplicate paperwork. I guess doctors are also limited in this way - a CRB for a hospital or even a department within a hospital.

Author:  jonbwfc [ Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:05 pm ]
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paulzolo wrote:
cloaked_wolf wrote:
The issue with CRB checks can end up being a bit ridiculous. On average, a junior doctor will fill 2-3 CRB forms per year.


Which seems ridiculous. I filled in a CRB form for my other half’s school as I occasionally do things there. The problem is that CRB form covers just that school, not the LEA, nor the country. The head teacher, who visits other schools, has to get a CRB for each school he visits. That’s a lot of duplicate paperwork. I guess doctors are also limited in this way - a CRB for a hospital or even a department within a hospital.

But we must Think Of The Children! Just because he's shown school A he's not a baby murdering loon doesn't mean he won't be by the time he gets to school B.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:06 pm ]
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paulzolo wrote:
cloaked_wolf wrote:
The issue with CRB checks can end up being a bit ridiculous. On average, a junior doctor will fill 2-3 CRB forms per year.


Which seems ridiculous. I filled in a CRB form for my other half’s school as I occasionally do things there. The problem is that CRB form covers just that school, not the LEA, nor the country. The head teacher, who visits other schools, has to get a CRB for each school he visits. That’s a lot of duplicate paperwork. I guess doctors are also limited in this way - a CRB for a hospital or even a department within a hospital.

So where is this joined up thinking that was supposed to be brought in by Tony. I doubt that the coalition will be any better.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:42 pm ]
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jonbwfc wrote:
But we must Think Of The Children! Just because he's shown school A he's not a baby murdering loon doesn't mean he won't be by the time he gets to school B.

That will be a certainty at some schools.

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