x404.co.uk
http://www.x404.co.uk/forum/

Government rules out English council tax revaluation
http://www.x404.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=10696
Page 1 of 1

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:30 am ]
Post subject:  Government rules out English council tax revaluation

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11401602

Quote:
There will be no revaluation of council tax bands in England during this Parliament, the government has pledged.

It means there will be no rise in local taxes for householders based solely on the increased value of their homes.

Every property in England is in one of eight council tax bands, depending on value, and these were last set in 1993.

The government said Labour had been "actively planning" to carry out a revaluation but Labour said its election manifesto had promised not to.

A revaluation is long overdue, but would prove highly unpopular with householders who find themselves in a higher band and therefore paying more in council tax, said the BBC's Greg Wood.

A revaluation in Wales in 2005 placed about a third of all homes there in a higher band.

The government says that a rise from Band D - the bench mark for council tax - to Band E would cost an extra £320-a-year.

The former Labour government had planned to revalue council tax bands in England in 2007, but announced in 2005 that it would postpone the decision until after the next general election.

Author:  Spreadie [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 10:11 am ]
Post subject:  Government rules out English council tax revaluation

This feels like [LIFTED] to me - revaluation hasn't been done since the 90s, yet my council tax magically goes up every year!
What are the chances that these yearly increments, combined with the slump in values, would mean that a revaluation would see rates drop and councils lose tax revenue?

Author:  paulzolo [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Government rules out English council tax revaluation

Spreadie wrote:
This feels like [LIFTED] to me - revaluation hasn't been done since the 90s, yet my council tax magically goes up every year!


They are talking about looking what which bands properties are in and changing that. You could find your house shifts up a band, which would attract a significantly higher amount. The BBC were talking about it adding few hundred pounds for a one step band change.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 11:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Government rules out English council tax revaluation

Spreadie wrote:
This feels like [LIFTED] to me - revaluation hasn't been done since the 90s, yet my council tax magically goes up every year!
What are the chances that these yearly increments, combined with the slump in values, would mean that a revaluation would see rates drop and councils lose tax revenue?

Yes but the combined increases over the years will more than make up for the recent drops in property values.

Author:  Linux_User [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Government rules out English council tax revaluation

Spreadie wrote:
This feels like [LIFTED] to me - revaluation hasn't been done since the 90s, yet my council tax magically goes up every year!
What are the chances that these yearly increments, combined with the slump in values, would mean that a revaluation would see rates drop and councils lose tax revenue?


Well 1/3 of the houses in Wales were shifted up a band, a similar thing could happen in England.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Government rules out English council tax revaluation

It should be a rolling valuation system. When ever you sell then it gets revalued, whenever you apply for planning permission it should be revalued. That will avoid the situation of properties getting seriously out of alignment with their rateable values.

Author:  Linux_User [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Government rules out English council tax revaluation

Amnesia10 wrote:
It should be a rolling valuation system. When ever you sell then it gets revalued, whenever you apply for planning permission it should be revalued. That will avoid the situation of properties getting seriously out of alignment with their rateable values.


Er, several problems there.

Firstly, the expense.

Secondly, the riots you'll have on the streets when people get stung.

Council tax is a ridiculous idea anyway - it leads to the absurd situation where poor people in large houses are effectively bankrupted by their local authority, and rich people in small houses get off lightly. A local income tax is a more ideal solution.

Author:  tombolt [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Government rules out English council tax revaluation

They can't re-evaluate the properties without re-evaluating the banding though. You can't base the bands on twenty year old values, then punish everyone because house prices have gone up. You'd end up with no-one in Band A. It's ridiculous.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Government rules out English council tax revaluation

Linux_User wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
It should be a rolling valuation system. When ever you sell then it gets revalued, whenever you apply for planning permission it should be revalued. That will avoid the situation of properties getting seriously out of alignment with their rateable values.


Er, several problems there.

Firstly, the expense.

Secondly, the riots you'll have on the streets when people get stung.

Council tax is a ridiculous idea anyway - it leads to the absurd situation where poor people in large houses are effectively bankrupted by their local authority, and rich people in small houses get off lightly. A local income tax is a more ideal solution.

Actually the expense would be minimal. They would be contracting estate agents to do a revaluation anyway but rather than in one go they could do it as and when the agent is free. That way the agency could do it for less and when they are quiet.

Why riots? This might be one house at a time.

I do agree about a local income tax but can you honestly see the Tories accepting that?

Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Government rules out English council tax revaluation

I really really don't want a revaluation. God only knows how my house is only in band B.

Author:  jonbwfc [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Government rules out English council tax revaluation

I don't really see the point anyway - isn't the important fact the relative value - if your house is worthntwice as much you pay more council tax kind of thing? Assuming most properties have risen roughly in proportion the numbers won't acytually be any different.

Author:  tombolt [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Government rules out English council tax revaluation

jonbwfc wrote:
I don't really see the point anyway - isn't the important fact the relative value - if your house is worthntwice as much you pay more council tax kind of thing? Assuming most properties have risen roughly in proportion the numbers won't acytually be any different.

Exactly what I was trying to say!

Author:  Linux_User [ Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Government rules out English council tax revaluation

jonbwfc wrote:
I don't really see the point anyway - isn't the important fact the relative value - if your house is worthntwice as much you pay more council tax kind of thing? Assuming most properties have risen roughly in proportion the numbers won't acytually be any different.


If 33% of properties were re-banded upwards in Wales, it's not unreasonable to assume a similar proportion of properties in England will suffer the same fate.

Page 1 of 1 All times are UTC
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
https://www.phpbb.com/