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Author:  pcernie [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Irish judge rules out 'three strikes' on downloaders

Hundreds of illegal file-sharers in Ireland will not face the 'three strikes' rule, after a high court judge ruled that the country's laws cannot enforce disconnection from the web.

Four of the biggest record labels - Warner Music, Universal Music Group, Sony BMG and EMI - started the legal action against UPC in a bid to force the Irish ISP to cut off customers thought to have taken part in illegal file-sharing.

Justice Peter Charleton admitted a "substantial portion" of UPC's 150,000 customers were illegally file-sharing, but said the laws are not in place to prosecute them. He also admitted this means Ireland is not complying with European law.

"This not only undermines their business but ruins the ability of a generation of creative people in Ireland, and elsewhere, to establish a viable living. It is destructive of an important native industry," he said.

Under a 'three strikes' rule, those accused of illegally downloading will be issued with warning letters and emails. Repeat offenders could see themselves cut off or suspended from the web.

UPC said it has "repeatedly stressed" it does not condone piracy and "has always taken a strong stance against illegal activity on its network".

"Today's decision supports the principle that ISPs are not liable for the actions of internet subscribers," the firm stated.

The ISP said it would continue to co-operate with rights holders, the government and other ISPs to combat net piracy.

Earlier this year, Eircom settled out of court after the Irish Recorded Music Association (IRMA) - a trade association composed of such record labels as EMI, Sony, Universal Music Group and Warner Music Group - bought legal action against the ISP regarding its customers that had illegally downloaded.

As part of the settlement, Eircom agreed to a three-month trial where web users that repeatedly illegally download are cut off from the net.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.c ... ID=3243803

I'm sorry, but most of the music that has ever come out of Ireland has been b0llocks - and I'm something of a U2 fan, many are not :lol:

Oh, and illegal downloading is probably more of a promotional tool than anything else; illegal downloaders were almost certainly never gonna buy the CD or legal download at full price anyway. The industry is destroying the industry, it really is that simple.

More and more people are hardly doing all their own promo work, recording and funding etc because there's a great industry there to help :roll:

I wonder what, if anything, Eircom will do now...

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Irish judge rules out 'three strikes' on downloaders

Many illegal downloaders are the equivalent of Spotify users. They try before they buy. If people can't try they will not buy. Simples. Yes there are some who would not buy anyway and cutting them off will not increase their buying. They might just turn on the radio instead. Also how many other businesses will suffer because of a lack of internet for their customers. I wonder how Amazon would do if a large chunk of their customer base is cut off? Then many governments want to put details of services online to save money. This would have to be delayed. Yet another case of lobbying screwing up business in unintended ways.

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