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Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Baby P killer Steven Barker 'forced to give evidence'
Right or wrongs notwithstanding, I am wondering how you can force someone (who has probably very little to lose right now) to give evidence without resorting to violence or threats thereof - in which case all bets are off as to the veracity of any statements made.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11687410
Author:  AlunD [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Baby P killer Steven Barker 'forced to give evidence'
paulzolo wrote:
I am wondering how you can force someone to give evidence

Yes that question did cross my mind as well. Cattle prod to the genitals was my immediate thought.
Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Baby P killer Steven Barker 'forced to give evidence'
AlunD wrote:
paulzolo wrote:
I am wondering how you can force someone to give evidence

Yes that question did cross my mind as well. Cattle prod to the genitals was my immediate thought.


They would need some leverage on him, and possibly some form of deal would be brokered. Anything like this would have to be known so that the evidence can be viewed in the context of how it was given.
Author:  pcernie [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 6:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Baby P killer Steven Barker 'forced to give evidence'
I think the Beeb's over selling it tbh, as they're keen to do these days :(
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Baby P killer Steven Barker 'forced to give evidence'
He could be given extra time for contempt of court for failing to speak. Though is a coroners inquest allowed to compel someone? Plus I would imagine that he would say nothing because he would incriminate himself and open the prospect to a retrial. Plus if he admits to any involvement he will get attacked in gaol. Child killers get a tough time in gaol.
Author:  JJW009 [ Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Baby P killer Steven Barker 'forced to give evidence'
I know what I would say in his place. I've always wanted to say it to a judge.

Proctor wrote:
I hear the boot of Lucifer, I see his filthy face! And it is my face. And yours, Danforth! For them that quail to bring men out of ignorance, as I have quailed, and you quail now when you know in all your black hearts that this be fraud - God damns our kind especially. And we will burn. We will burn together!
Author:  l3v1ck [ Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Baby P killer Steven Barker 'forced to give evidence'
paulzolo wrote:
Right or wrongs notwithstanding, I am wondering how you can force someone (who has probably very little to lose right now) to give evidence
+1
We don't have "subpina laws (spelling?) like America.
Author:  Fogmeister [ Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Baby P killer Steven Barker 'forced to give evidence'
l3v1ck wrote:
paulzolo wrote:
Right or wrongs notwithstanding, I am wondering how you can force someone (who has probably very little to lose right now) to give evidence
+1
We don't have "subpina laws (spelling?) like America.

subpoena :D
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Baby P killer Steven Barker 'forced to give evidence'
l3v1ck wrote:
paulzolo wrote:
Right or wrongs notwithstanding, I am wondering how you can force someone (who has probably very little to lose right now) to give evidence
+1
We don't have "subpina laws (spelling?) like America.

We do have something similar but I cannot remember what it is called. Though you cannot be compelled to incriminate yourself.
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