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Author:  pcernie [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Pre-owned 'expands potential for piracy' - Codemasters

Codemasters CEO Rod Cousens believes that the pre-owned games market encourages piracy.

In an interview with GI.biz, the exec said the used games market "[kills] things like subsequent exploitation in platinum and classics... and it expands the potential for piracy".

The Codies boss pointed out: "Pre-owned isn't actually new - in 1981 there was Buy and Try, and that type of stuff.

"The difference was that it wasn't a significant percentage of the market, and it was never promoted as aggressively through the retail community as it is today."

He added: "You could argue for the retailer in that context, but also what it's done is kill things like subsequent exploitation in platinum and classics... and it expands the potential for piracy by default.


"They would argue that prices would suggest otherwise - I would say not, because by the time you get down through the food chain, a thing gets more and more ripped off."

Cousens said that the situation needs to be managed with both retail and publishers in mind because high-street stores aren't going anywhere soon and 35 per cent of the world market doesn't have broadband, ruling out an independent digital download market at this time.

"If retail takes a confrontational point of view and says that if we go online, they won't stock the box - and publishers then say that all they're going to do is put out DLC after launch that retail can't participate in... it's ridiculous.

"Actually, you need them to get to the stage where they stock the box. It's not inconceivable that you're going to ask them to give the box away at some point in time. But then, they participate to an extent in the subsequent DLC exploitation.

"How does that happen? Maybe it is through a code, or whatever - but it's stuff like that which I believe between us all we'll figure out."

There's hope for publishers and retailers to get along then, according to Cousens.

In fact, Asda's head of games, Andrew Thompson, spoke yesterday of how the store's move towards the pre-owned market can actually benefit its suppliers as well.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/ar ... ?id=275847

Can someone translate that for me? :?

Author:  james016 [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:55 pm ]
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All I got from that was the he thinks the pre-owned market is stopping companies from re-badging games as classic/platinum and they are losing income from that.

How it encourages piracy is beyond me as he doesn't make too much sense.

Andrew Thompson makes sense. People can sell their old games for cash to buy new games. Simples.

Author:  l3v1ck [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:09 pm ]
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james016 wrote:
How it encourages piracy is beyond me as he doesn't make too much sense.
+1

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:29 pm ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
james016 wrote:
How it encourages piracy is beyond me as he doesn't make too much sense.
+1

+1 It makes no sense. :roll:

Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:51 pm ]
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+3. Is he just confused?

Author:  Spreadie [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pre-owned 'expands potential for piracy' - Codemasters

james016 wrote:
All I got from that was the he thinks the pre-owned market is stopping companies from re-badging games as classic/platinum and they are losing income from that.

Yep, another "boohoo, we ain't making enough money" rant.

Is he related to Murdoch?

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:36 pm ]
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It is typical of bug business in that they failed to appreciate the views of their customers. They treat us like sheep waiting to fleece us.

Author:  Spreadie [ Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:54 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
They treat us like sheep waiting to fleece us.

A dangling participle?
Grammar Nazi

:lol:

Author:  JJW009 [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:38 am ]
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I greatly fear being fleeced by a sheep :shock:

Author:  big_D [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pre-owned 'expands potential for piracy' - Codemasters

Maybe Codemasters should go back to their grounding principles - software everybody can afford - and put their prices back to 1.99 for normal games and 2.99 for premium games. That is what they promised, when they took on the gaming software industry...

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:57 am ]
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big_D wrote:
Maybe Codemasters should go back to their grounding principles - software everybody can afford - and put their prices back to 1.99 for normal games and 2.99 for premium games. That is what they promised, when they took on the gaming software industry...

That would make piracy pointless. Though far too sensible to be done.

Author:  jonlumb [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:09 am ]
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I appear to be leaving a lot of quotes today!

Robert Heinlein wrote:
"There has grown up in the minds of certain groups in this country the notion that because a man or corporation has made a profit out of the public for a number of years, the government and the courts are charged with the duty of guaranteeing such profit in the future, even in the face of changing circumstances and contrary public interest. This strange doctrine is not supported by statute nor common law. Neither individuals nor corporations have any right to come into court and ask that the clock of history be stopped or turned back, for their private benefit."

Author:  Spreadie [ Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:22 am ]
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jonlumb wrote:
I appear to be leaving a lot of quotes today!

Robert Heinlein wrote:
"There has grown up in the minds of certain groups in this country the notion that because a man or corporation has made a profit out of the public for a number of years, the government and the courts are charged with the duty of guaranteeing such profit in the future, even in the face of changing circumstances and contrary public interest. This strange doctrine is not supported by statute nor common law. Neither individuals nor corporations have any right to come into court and ask that the clock of history be stopped or turned back, for their private benefit."

It's a very good quote though.

And it applies to a fair number of discussions in here.

Codemasters, Murdoch, British Gas etc..

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