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Author: | ProfessorF [ Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:13 pm ] | |||||||||
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/23/north-south-korea-crisis-conflict |
Author: | adidan [ Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: North Korea: a deadly attack, a counter-strike |
Funny how they tend to leave out the fact South Korea was conducting military drills on the disputed island before North Korea attacked. That's not an excuse for North Korea's attack but you don't go showing off your military might on disputed land infront of those you're in dispute with, who are currently in a transitional phase of leadership, and who have an excessively paranoid outlook on the rest of the world when you know exactly what the response will be. Unless the response is the one you're after. |
Author: | ProfessorF [ Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:45 pm ] |
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Nor does it mention the sinking of the S.Korean ship recently, which was quite possibly at the hands of N.Korea. Either way, there's a difference between marching your troops all over an island and, y'know, shelling another country. |
Author: | adidan [ Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:09 pm ] | |||||||||
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The sinking hasn't been proven AFAIK. As for the rest, that is true. |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:45 pm ] |
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I think that the sinking was confirmed as by a north Korean torpedo. |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:42 pm ] | |||||||||
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It wasn't confirmed as such but they did find some of the remains of the torp and it matched a design North Korea is known to use. Jon |
Author: | Amnesia10 [ Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:47 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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Yes but who else can get access to a north korean torpedo design? I doubt that even the Chinese are that deceptive. |
Author: | JohnSheridan [ Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:24 pm ] |
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if N Korea was framed re. supposedly torpedoing that S Korean vessel. Bit too convinient that those remains were found - I would expect a torpedo to be destroyed in its own explosion. |
Author: | belchingmatt [ Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:17 am ] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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The torpedo used by NK is probably not of their own design, more likely to be from the USSR and therefore fairly easy to come by.
A bit of military and therefore economic instability in Asia would certainly help other countries experiencing a bit of a downturn play a bit of catch up. |
Author: | rustybucket [ Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:19 am ] |
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It all smells a bit fishy to me tbh. Someone need international support for military action? ![]() |
Author: | adidan [ Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:58 am ] |
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After the whole WMD thing, I wouldn't put anything past anybody. |
Author: | Spreadie [ Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:44 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: North Korea: a deadly attack, a counter-strike |
Yeah, looks like someone is laying the groundwork to justify military intervention. It's not impossible to believe that someone planted a few torpedo remnants in order to tip the scales of public opinion. I'm not suggesting that NK is really a victim in all this either - as much as two years before the first Gulf war, Saddam Hussein complained to the UN about how Kuwait's agressive trading stance on oil was crippling Iraq's economy. He was ignored, and he used that fact as an excuse to invade. The guy was an evil prick and deserved what he got, but it's fairly obvious he was ignored in order to create an opportunity for intervention further down the line. *removes tin-foil hat* |
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