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Author:  pcernie [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Dixons wishes for a 3D Christmas

http://www.techradar.com/news/televisio ... mas-910968

I'm predicting FAIL :oops:

Author:  adidan [ Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dixons wishes for a 3D Christmas

pcernie wrote:
http://www.techradar.com/news/television/dixons-wishes-for-a-3d-christmas-910968

I'm predicting FAIL :oops:

FAIL with knobs on.

Author:  Tsar [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dixons wishes for a 3D Christmas

adidan wrote:
pcernie wrote:
http://www.techradar.com/news/television/dixons-wishes-for-a-3d-christmas-910968

I'm predicting FAIL :oops:

FAIL with knobs on.


+ 1

Author:  rustybucket [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dixons wishes for a 3D Christmas

FAIL with 6 ensuite bedrooms, a Neo-Georgian frontage, ample parking, easy access to the M4 and excellent views of the Wye Valley.

Author:  veato [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dixons wishes for a 3D Christmas

My dad was thinking about a new TV and BD player. There's a deal for a Panasonic plasma, BD player, free 3D BD movies and free 3D glasses. On that basis the package for him was probably worth it given it's around his budget for TV and player anyway.

It's not for me though. I'm not buying into the tech. I went to a friends who put Alice in Wonderland on (Sony Bravia) and it didnt look right. The image still looked flat but stacked on planes behind each other if that makes sense.

Author:  pcernie [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dixons wishes for a 3D Christmas

rustybucket wrote:
FAIL with 6 ensuite bedrooms, a Neo-Georgian frontage, ample parking, easy access to the M4 and excellent views of the Wye Valley.


:lol: :D

Author:  paulzolo [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dixons wishes for a 3D Christmas

veato wrote:
The image still looked flat but stacked on planes behind each other if that makes sense.


Hardly surprising - Alice was a 3D conversion from 2D which was rushed through. It was heavily criticised for its poor 3D, just like Clash of the TItans was. Stereoscopic images (this is what this current wave of 3D is) can make things look like stacked flat planes - it’s the nature of the beast. If done well, things can look good, but you have to be planning to make a 3D film from the start, and be using decent 3D cameras.

Author:  veato [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dixons wishes for a 3D Christmas

paulzolo wrote:
veato wrote:
The image still looked flat but stacked on planes behind each other if that makes sense.


Hardly surprising - Alice was a 3D conversion from 2D which was rushed through. It was heavily criticised for its poor 3D, just like Clash of the TItans was. Stereoscopic images (this is what this current wave of 3D is) can make things look like stacked flat planes - it’s the nature of the beast. If done well, things can look good, but you have to be planning to make a 3D film from the start, and be using decent 3D cameras.


I wondered if that was the case. From what I've seen at the cinema Avatar and Toy Story (to a lesser extend but added a nice depth to the picture) have had the best 3D effects. I'd like to see those on a home setup to compare.

Author:  Fogmeister [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dixons wishes for a 3D Christmas

veato wrote:
paulzolo wrote:
Hardly surprising - Alice was a 3D conversion from 2D which was rushed through. It was heavily criticised for its poor 3D, just like Clash of the TItans was. Stereoscopic images (this is what this current wave of 3D is) can make things look like stacked flat planes - it’s the nature of the beast. If done well, things can look good, but you have to be planning to make a 3D film from the start, and be using decent 3D cameras.


I wondered if that was the case. From what I've seen at the cinema Avatar and Toy Story (to a lesser extend but added a nice depth to the picture) have had the best 3D effects. I'd like to see those on a home setup to compare.

Up was very good in 3D also. There were no particularly 3D-esque effects (i.e. things shooting out of the screen etc...) but it just added nicely to the feel of the movie.

Also, by its very nature, CGI films can be "converted" to 3D very easily as they are just big 3D models where the same scene can be run over and over with cameras in different places or indeed 2 stereoscopic cameras to create a 3D stereogram image.

Author:  Fogmeister [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dixons wishes for a 3D Christmas

Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if they went and did a few older films (Toy Story 1 and 2, Monsters Inc, Shrek, The Incredibles, etc...) as 3DD versions and released them again.

They will still have the raw data archived somewhere so it shouldn't be too much effort to do (relatively).

Author:  pcernie [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dixons wishes for a 3D Christmas

I was just thinking the last Trek film might have decent scenes for 3D-ification...

Author:  paulzolo [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dixons wishes for a 3D Christmas

Fogmeister wrote:
Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if they went and did a few older films (Toy Story 1 and 2, Monsters Inc, Shrek, The Incredibles, etc...) as 3DD versions and released them again.

They will still have the raw data archived somewhere so it shouldn't be too much effort to do (relatively).


They had to rebuild the Toy Story models from scratch for Toy Story 3 because the software had moved on so much that they could not open the old models. So unless they have legacy rendering farms kicking around, opening the files for the original movie could be a challenge.

Author:  l3v1ck [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dixons wishes for a 3D Christmas

People just don't have that kind of money spare at the moment. I was in a shop yesterday looking for a 37" (ish) LED back lit TV with HD Freeview. I took one look at the prices and decided it could wait a few more years. I wasn't even looking at 3D ones. (Not that I'm even interested in 3D ones.)

Author:  veato [ Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dixons wishes for a 3D Christmas

l3v1ck wrote:
People just don't have that kind of money spare at the moment. I was in a shop yesterday looking for a 37" (ish) LED back lit TV with HD Freeview. I took one look at the prices and decided it could wait a few more years. I wasn't even looking at 3D ones. (Not that I'm even interested in 3D ones.)


I've seen a 42" Sharp LED for £450. I think they use the "full array" LED backlighting method though which is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Wiki wrote:
LED backlighting techniques

RGB dynamic LEDs
This method of backlighting allows dimming to occur in locally specific areas of darkness on the screen. This can show truer blacks, whites and PRs at much higher dynamic contrast ratios, at the cost of less detail in small bright objects on a dark background, such as star fields.

Edge-LEDs
This method of backlighting allows for LED-backlit TVs to become extremely thin. The light is diffused across the screen by a special panel which produces a uniform color range across the screen.

Full Array LEDs
Sharp, and now other brands, also have LED backlighting technology that aligns the LEDs on back of the TV like the RGB Dynamic LED backlight, but it lacks the local dimming of other sets. The main benefit of its LED backlight is simply reduced energy consumption and may not improve quality over non-LED LCD TVs.

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