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Author:  pcernie [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:37 pm ]
Post subject:  MP calls for porn sites to be filtered by age

A conservative MP has called for UK Internet service providers to protect youngsters by introducing an age-rated opt-in system for online porn.

According to Wiltshire MP Claire Perry, too many Internet users under the age of 18 are accessing online sex, either deliberately or by accident, with some consuming porn from ages as young as ten.

Her proposed solution is for the major UK ISPs - BT, Virgin, Talk Talk BskyB, Orange and O2 – to introduce a form of ratings system for online content similar to that used to classify movies, and to regulate TV content.

Perry doesn’t elaborate on how age verification might work in practice by referred to a system introduced by the last government to stop youngsters accessing gambling sites.

“I believe that time has come to stop ducking and diving on an issue that is of enormous concern to parents, teachers and carers across the country,” the MP wrote in an article on the Politics.co.uk website.

Many will have sympathy with the MP’s calls whilst doubting that what she is calling for is technically feasible. Others will oppose it on the grounds that even if it is possible such a system would amount to censorship.

Filtering sites for porn using IP blacklisting is tough work. The number of sites if huge and spotting them all is almost impossible. Many legitimate sites might be caught up if their IP was in the same address range. Sites can also be filtered using content analysis but this is prone to similar problems, especially false positives.

A better approach is whitelisting, where site access is restricted to all sites except given exceptions. This is easier to implement on home routers than at ISP level – no UK ISPs have such facilities to manage connections in this way at the moment – but would severely curtail Internet use.

As to the age verification system used on gambling sites, this limits access without the production of a credit card, but that is a special case. Gambling sites are small in number and require a credit card to gamble anyway. Porn sites invariably offer free content.

Perry’s call is a reversal of the current online porn regime which leaves filtering up to the Internet user. Some home routers allow certain search terms of sites tom be blocked, many don’t. Even those that do can be circumvented by a technically-proficient teen with relative ease.

The MP has put the proposal to the House of Commons during an adjournment debate, which is a technical way of saying that it was being raised as little more than a talking point.

Swedish company NetClean currently offers a system that directly identifies individual child porn images from an established database. The system is designed for use by police forces rather than consumers and would not begin to answer the huge technical issues raised Perry’s proposal.

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.c ... ID=3250512

Nah, then the entertainment industry would want their own filters installed too ;)

Author:  ProfessorF [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MP calls for porn sites to be filtered by age

It's simple. When you wish to view porn, your ISP will alert the authorities.
Your location will be made known to the Police, who will then come round to your house after you call them expressing your desire to view pornography over your high speed interweb connection that was the stuff of dreams 15 years ago. (Or maybe a PCSO would be more appropriate.)
Upon establishing your age via a lengthy exam and DNA swabbing, you will then be allowed to proceed after being entered onto a database of known pornography users, and your connection to your site of choice re-established.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MP calls for porn sites to be filtered by age

ProfessorF wrote:
It's simple. When you wish to view porn, your ISP will alert the authorities.
Your location will be made known to the Police, who will then come round to your house after you call them expressing your desire to view pornography over your high speed interweb connection that was the stuff of dreams 15 years ago. (Or maybe a PCSO would be more appropriate.)
Upon establishing your age via a lengthy exam and DNA swabbing, you will then be allowed to proceed after being entered onto a database of known pornography users, and your connection to your site of choice re-established.

Well we all know one former Home Secretary's husband who would be on such a list. :lol:

It is a farce. Parents have to be aware of what their kids are up to, or they are of an age where it is not an issue. All this will do is drive the cost of internet access up and ruin the governments objective of providing everything online.

Author:  rustybucket [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:30 pm ]
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pcernie wrote:
A conservative MP has called for parents to be able to outsource their responsibilities instead of doing their job and actually supervising their own children whilst on the internet.

Fixed.

:roll:

Author:  Spreadie [ Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:34 pm ]
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rustybucket wrote:
pcernie wrote:
A conservative MP has called for parents to be able to outsource their responsibilities instead of doing their job and actually supervising their own children whilst on the internet.

Fixed.

:roll:

This.

Author:  adidan [ Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:30 am ]
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rustybucket wrote:
pcernie wrote:
A conservative MP has called for parents to be able to outsource their responsibilities instead of doing their job and actually supervising their own children whilst on the internet.

Fixed.

:roll:

This with knobs on, so to speak.

Author:  JJW009 [ Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:38 pm ]
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adidan wrote:
rustybucket wrote:
pcernie wrote:
A conservative MP has called for parents to be able to outsource their responsibilities instead of doing their job and actually supervising their own children whilst on the internet.

Fixed.

:roll:

This with knobs on, so to speak.

+1

Seriously. Look after your damned kids; it's what "being a parent" means!

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:16 pm ]
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JJW009 wrote:
Seriously. Look after your damned kids; it's what "being a parent" means!

+1 It is hardly rocket science.

Author:  finlay666 [ Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:43 am ]
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ProfessorF wrote:
Upon establishing your age via a lengthy exam and DNA swabbing, you will then be allowed to proceed after being entered onto a database of known pornography users, and your connection to your site of choice re-established.

Would mean sites still take the same amount of time to load for me............

Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:51 am ]
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Is this the age of the internet user or the models he’s talking about?

Author:  veato [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:48 am ]
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SAVE THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or..... maybe the parents should fulfil their role. I know I'm being really simplistic but it reminds me of a post someone made on FB the other day about a paedo adding kids as friends (a hoax chain mail thing by the way) and even my own sister said "that's why my kids wont go on facebook!" in a big huffy statement. Well.... why not educate them to NOT add people they dont know and NOT talk to strangers. Get some [LIFTED] perspective.

Author:  paulzolo [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:54 am ]
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veato wrote:
Well.... why not educate them to NOT add people they dont know and NOT talk to strangers. Get some [LIFTED] perspective.


Parents really like to abdicate their responsibilities at times. In this case, I would postulate that the reason they do is because they have not enough knowledge themselves to make a firm decision.

Author:  soddit112 [ Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:13 am ]
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rustybucket wrote:
pcernie wrote:
A conservative MP has called for parents to be able to outsource their responsibilities instead of doing their job and actually supervising their own children whilst on the internet.

Fixed.

:roll:


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