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pcernie
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A tough anti-smoking law has taken effect in Spain. The ban - one of the strictest in Europe - outlaws smoking in all bars and restaurants. Smokers will also be prohibited on television broadcasts, near hospitals or in school playgrounds. The law tightens anti-smoking restrictions introduced in 2006. Spain has a strong cafe culture and the owners of bars and cafes have complained the law will hurt business. The anti-smoking rules introduced in 2006 outlawed smoking in the workplace, but it let bar and restaurant owners choose whether or not to allow it. Most chose not to impose any ban. Only large restaurants and bars were obliged to provide a smoke-free area. Hotel, restaurant and bar owners have said they could face a 10% drop in trade with the new rules. The industry has already seen a sharp fall in sales due to Spain's economic problems. But doctors argue the new legislation will help smokers give up. Some 160 Spaniards a day die from smoking-related illnesses, four of them from passive smoking. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12104056'You there, kill yourself at home ffs!'
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JJW009
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I assume that's a grammar fail, and it means "smoking" rather than "smokers".
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Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:37 pm |
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l3v1ck
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Good (from a selfish point of view). I like not having to breath in smoke in restaurants and bars, and I'd like that to continue when I go on holiday in September.
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Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:25 am |
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cloaked_wolf
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I wonder what's going to happen in hospitals. Here in England, smokers have a smoking shelter. You can see staff huddling up for a quick fag during breaks. But what's just as funny is that you'll see patients holding drip stands smoking outside too.
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Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:43 am |
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belchingmatt
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Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 3:16 am Posts: 6146 Location: Middle Earth
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If you feel that strongly then why book a holiday to Spain?
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Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:52 am |
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l3v1ck
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I don't feel that strongly, I just like the change.
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Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:51 am |
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rustybucket
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Hmmm... I can't help but think that, although I approve of being able to drink in smoke-free environments, I strongly disapprove of banning things. The question is however: How do we achieve those smoke-free pubs without a ban? Hard to see the future is... 
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Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:32 pm |
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saspro
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:53 pm Posts: 8603 Location: location, location
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Have a smoking licence section on the premises licence. That way you can have smoking & nonsmoking pubs.
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Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:46 pm |
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PaulKey
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:18 am Posts: 385
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I'm an ex-smoker myself (30 years stopped) and can't abide the habit. I too have seen the huddle of staff and patients immediately outside hospital entrances, some wheeling drips, others in wheelchairs, all invariably in pj's and dressing gowns (not the staff lol).... I find it both pathetic and sad.
I do however think that this new rule, and to an extent our own no smoking rules, are quite draconian. I'm fairly sure it's caused the closure of many pubs in this country. Don't we have the wit and technology to create "smoking rooms" in our pubs and clubs where powerful extractor fans can suck away the foul air those who choose to smoke create ?
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veato
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:17 am Posts: 5550 Location: Nottingham
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I pick Nic up regularily from hospital (because she works there not because she's accident prone) and the amount of people I see outside looking like they've just gotten through something horrible or are about to have something horrible done and they're outside in the cold wearing very little with medical equipment attached to themselves smoking. It's nuts. It also doesnt help that they let people do it outside the main entrance when it's supposed to be banned on the grounds altogether. Just as bad though I find are the gaggle of teen (soon to be) mums outside maternity, their bellies full baby, grabbing a fag before going onto the ward/delivery suite.
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forquare1
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I must admit that, overall, I agree with the smoking bans. However, as an occasional smoker, it does bug me that I can't smoke comfortably.
Smoking and non-smoking pubs should be allowed, or perhaps having tech to get rid of smoke...
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Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:21 pm |
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DaftFunk
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Joined: Wed May 06, 2009 3:39 pm Posts: 478 Location: Peterborough
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I find it odd that people will choose not to go out to a restaurant because they can't have a fag.
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Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:44 pm |
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belchingmatt
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They should enforce the ban and also ensure all hospital property remains on-site. 
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AlunD
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How so ? Its a matter of personal choice. 
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AlunD
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To me that seems sensible. ( an ex smoker )
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