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Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Pilot falls asleep in cockpit as co-pilot goes to the loo
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... e-loo.html

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For a few minutes the Boeing, which was flying between Copenhagen and Stockholm, was under the total control of the autopilot, according to an internal report by SAS, the Swedish-based airline, published by the Norwegian newspaper VG.
The dozing pilot was only woken when his colleague returned and had to repeatedly ring the bell of the armoured door to get back into the locked cockpit. The report also said the pilot was temporally disorientated when he awoke and had trouble unlocking the door.
"I was extremely tired and had to fight to keep my eyes open," said the pilot, who was on his fourth flight on the day the incident took place last year, and had less than four hours sleep.

So it was under the total control of the autopilot for a few minutes. :shock: :D
Author:  jonbwfc [ Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pilot falls asleep in cockpit as co-pilot goes to the loo
Amnesia10 wrote:
So it was under the total control of the autopilot for a few minutes. :shock: :D

A lot of planes are under the effective control of the autopilot for most of the flight anyway. If the thing's at 30,000 feet and flying level in a straight line, I don't really see what the pilot actually has to do.

I'm more bothered about the fact that they put a sodding great armoured door in after 9/11 yet apparently they have to open the door every time someone wants to go for a leak. What's the sodding point of that then?
Author:  paulzolo [ Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pilot falls asleep in cockpit as co-pilot goes to the loo
jonbwfc wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
So it was under the total control of the autopilot for a few minutes. :shock: :D

A lot of planes are under the effective control of the autopilot for most of the flight anyway. If the thing's at 30,000 feet and flying level in a straight line, I don't really see what the pilot actually has to do.

I'm more bothered about the fact that they put a sodding great armoured door in after 9/11 yet apparently they have to open the door every time someone wants to go for a leak. What's the sodding point of that then?


Coming back on a flight once, they landed the plane on auto pilot. They announced before the landing and the pilot said there was an instant override if he took hold of the controls.
Author:  jonbwfc [ Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pilot falls asleep in cockpit as co-pilot goes to the loo
paulzolo wrote:
Coming back on a flight once, they landed the plane on auto pilot. They announced before the landing and the pilot said there was an instant override if he took hold of the controls.

If you're landing in the dark or in wet weather the pilot is pretty much relying on the ILS until he's virtually on the ground anyway. No reason at all that a computer couldn't do exactly the same thing.

Jon
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pilot falls asleep in cockpit as co-pilot goes to the loo
jonbwfc wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
So it was under the total control of the autopilot for a few minutes. :shock: :D

A lot of planes are under the effective control of the autopilot for most of the flight anyway. If the thing's at 30,000 feet and flying level in a straight line, I don't really see what the pilot actually has to do.

I'm more bothered about the fact that they put a sodding great armoured door in after 9/11 yet apparently they have to open the door every time someone wants to go for a leak. What's the sodding point of that then?

That was my point of the smiley. I should have put a sarcasm tag on as well. Also armoured doors are probably overkill for Europe.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pilot falls asleep in cockpit as co-pilot goes to the loo
paulzolo wrote:
Coming back on a flight once, they landed the plane on auto pilot. They announced before the landing and the pilot said there was an instant override if he took hold of the controls.
+1
Only the pilot waited to tell us that the auto-pilot had done the landing until after we landed. :D
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Pilot falls asleep in cockpit as co-pilot goes to the loo
l3v1ck wrote:
paulzolo wrote:
Coming back on a flight once, they landed the plane on auto pilot. They announced before the landing and the pilot said there was an instant override if he took hold of the controls.
+1
Only the pilot waited to tell us that the auto-pilot had done the landing until after we landed. :D

I have no fears of an automated landing. The autopilots are well programmed and very safe. Apart from the one in Airplane. :lol:
Author:  soddit112 [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pilot falls asleep in cockpit as co-pilot goes to the loo
Amnesia10 wrote:
I have no fears of an automated landing. The autopilots are well programmed and very safe. Apart from the one in Airplane. :lol:


+1

manual inflation FTW :D
Author:  ProfessorF [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pilot falls asleep in cockpit as co-pilot goes to the loo
My father spent a lot of his working life installing and maintaining aircraft landing systems. If you've ever flown out of an airport between Newcastle and the most northern Scottish Islands, about 10 years ago, then you've been at the mercies of his expertise. It's actually pretty safe, an automated landing. The control towers can, I think, also remotely bring a plane in.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 2:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pilot falls asleep in cockpit as co-pilot goes to the loo
Amnesia10 wrote:
l3v1ck wrote:
paulzolo wrote:
Coming back on a flight once, they landed the plane on auto pilot. They announced before the landing and the pilot said there was an instant override if he took hold of the controls.
+1
Only the pilot waited to tell us that the auto-pilot had done the landing until after we landed. :D

I have no fears of an automated landing. The autopilots are well programmed and very safe. Apart from the one in Airplane. :lol:

I agree. It was a perfectly smooth landing in snowy/blizzard conditions. Better than most normal landings.
Author:  big_D [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Pilot falls asleep in cockpit as co-pilot goes to the loo
A modern autopilot can pretty much land the plane more smoothly than the pilot, it is just pride and unions that keep the pilots taking off and landing... :lol:
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