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Author:  pcernie [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Councils' anger at government publicity ban

The government has moved to ban local councils using taxpayers' money to fund publicity it has labelled "vanity PR".

Local Government Secretary Eric Pickles has published new guidelines, including limiting councils to publishing four newspapers a year.

The move follows a row with one London council that put up posters apparently critical of government spending cuts.

Critics say the changes will threaten councils' communication with the public and central government.
'Lobbying on rates'

Labour, the Local Government Association and the Association of Professional Political Consultants (APPC) have all attacked the changes.
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The rules ...will do nothing to help councils to communicate both with council tax payers and with decision-makers”

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The new guidelines also ban local authorities from employing lobbyists.

Eric Pickles claimed some authorities were "lobbying on the rates".

The role of outside consultants to advocate for local authorities was justified by the Local Government Association.

Its chairman Margaret Eaton told the BBC: "Whitehall is a maze of complexities and I think its very legitimate for local authorities who have a big issue... to use someone who can navigate the Whitehall complexities."

Asked why local politicians might need private consultants to communicate with other politicians, she said: "I don't think individual councillors know the complexities."

Part of the role of the organisation she leads, the LGA, is to represent and speak up for local government in its relationship with central government.

There is a statutory requirement for local authorities to engage with and communicate with voters and people in their areas.

The body which speaks for private lobbyists believes this will be under threat.

Gavin Devine, from the APPC, told the BBC: "The rules announced today will do nothing to help councils to communicate both with council tax payers and with decision-makers, and may well drive up costs.

"At a time when councils are under particular pressure that is deeply regrettable."

It is claimed that using in-house PR or lobbying specialists would be more expensive and likely less effective.

But these new guidelines from the Department for Communities and Local Government make it clear that private lobbyists will no longer be welcome.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12436797

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Councils' anger at government publicity ban

My local council had such a propaganda free sheet which the Tories took over and still run. It is a waste of money. Unless people can see improvements all this is a party endorsed advertising.

Author:  jonbwfc [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:54 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
My local council had such a propaganda free sheet which the Tories took over and still run. It is a waste of money. Unless people can see improvements all this is a party endorsed advertising.

Yep, there's a local free council newspaper here that gets shoved through my door every Friday. Goes straight on the pile for recycling. I'd suggest it was a waste of money but given the number of adverts in it I suspect it may be self-funding.

Jon

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Councils' anger at government publicity ban

jonbwfc wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
My local council had such a propaganda free sheet which the Tories took over and still run. It is a waste of money. Unless people can see improvements all this is a party endorsed advertising.

Yep, there's a local free council newspaper here that gets shoved through my door every Friday. Goes straight on the pile for recycling. I'd suggest it was a waste of money but given the number of adverts in it I suspect it may be self-funding.

Jon

MIne has loads of adverts as well. Though it would mean that the advertisers are making political donations effectively and not declaring them.

Author:  rustybucket [ Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Councils' anger at government publicity ban

Councils shouldn't need publicity; they should do their job properly.

Why the hell does everything need to be a brand?

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:38 am ]
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rustybucket wrote:
Councils shouldn't need publicity; they should do their job properly.

Why the hell does everything need to be a brand?

Exactly if they do a good job we would not need to be told it, we could see for ourselves.

Author:  Linux_User [ Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:12 am ]
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rustybucket wrote:
Councils shouldn't need publicity; they should do their job properly.

Why the hell does everything need to be a brand?

Many councils use their "freesheets" to meet their legal obligations regarding planning applications, job notices, advertising of benefits and local services etc.

Without the freesheets, councils would have to use local newspapers or other forms of advertising to meet these requirements instead, which may well be more expensive.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:34 am ]
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Linux_User wrote:
rustybucket wrote:
Councils shouldn't need publicity; they should do their job properly.

Why the hell does everything need to be a brand?

Many councils use their "freesheets" to meet their legal obligations regarding planning applications, job notices, advertising of benefits and local services etc.

Without the freesheets, councils would have to use local newspapers or other forms of advertising to meet these requirements instead, which may well be more expensive.

That is fine as long as they do not have any politicians in them, trying to make themselves look good, then it becomes political.

Author:  hifidelity2 [ Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Councils' anger at government publicity ban

Linux_User wrote:
rustybucket wrote:
Councils shouldn't need publicity; they should do their job properly.

Why the hell does everything need to be a brand?

Many councils use their "freesheets" to meet their legal obligations regarding planning applications, job notices, advertising of benefits and local services etc.

Without the freesheets, councils would have to use local newspapers or other forms of advertising to meet these requirements instead, which may well be more expensive.

True but a lot use them as a propaganda sheet and I find it hard for it not to be cheaper for them to take a few pages in the local paper 4 times a year

Author:  ProfessorF [ Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:03 pm ]
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rustybucket wrote:
Why the hell does everything need to be a brand?


For the same reason everything needs a name. It's just an extension of that, really.

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