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Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:47 am ]
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It is not wrong to sell arms, says David Cameron as he defends sale of weapons to Middle East


get involved and sell arms to both sides
'lord of war' springs to mind ...

Author:  lumbthelesser [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:52 am ]
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MrStevenRogers wrote:
Quote:
It is not wrong to sell arms, says David Cameron as he defends sale of weapons to Middle East


get involved and sell arms to both sides
'lord of war' springs to mind ...


Congratulating the protesters with one face, selling crowd control weapons to similar dictatorships with the other face. Git. :evil:

Author:  l3v1ck [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:31 am ]
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Countries sell arms to each other all the time. You have no way of knowing in advance if they'll be a future enemy.
EG Argentina had Type 42 destroyers during the Falklands war.
Iran has F14's from America. etc etc etc
The Afgans had American stinger anti-aircaft missiles when they invaded after 9-11.

It's all about the money.

Author:  forquare1 [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:37 am ]
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l3v1ck wrote:
It's all about the money.


Nah. It's all about the Pentiums, baby

Author:  HeatherKay [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:22 am ]
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Didn't we already start talking about this?

Here: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=12679

Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:22 am ]
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Cameron has done something that I thought would not be possible - reach Tony Blair heights of awfulness in record time. Sure, I suspect that any PM would be under pressure to join in the gun peddling this week, but a man or woman of stronger character would have looked at the situation and said, “no - it is inappropriate,” and not gone.

I suspect that despite his bluster, Cameron is fairly easy to manipulate within certain parameters. He’s certainly very easy to get to revert to type despite all his apparent “green” and “ethical” musings.

Author:  HeatherKay [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:30 am ]
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Don't forget Cameron is a big fan of Blair - strange as it may seem.

Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:32 am ]
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HeatherKay wrote:
Don't forget Cameron is a big fan of Blair - strange as it may seem.


I know. Blair was a fan of Thatcher. See a pattern?

Author:  bobbdobbs [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:17 am ]
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paulzolo wrote:
Cameron has done something that I thought would not be possible - reach Tony Blair heights of awfulness in record time. Sure, I suspect that any PM would be under pressure to join in the gun peddling this week, but a man or woman of stronger character would have looked at the situation and said, “no - it is inappropriate,” and not gone.

I suspect that despite his bluster, Cameron is fairly easy to manipulate within certain parameters. He’s certainly very easy to get to revert to type despite all his apparent “green” and “ethical” musings.


were you expecting anything different. if you were more fool you.

The only good politician is a dead politician. Then they should be beheaded, incinerated and then shot just to make sure.

Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:58 am ]
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bobbdobbs wrote:
paulzolo wrote:
Cameron has done something that I thought would not be possible - reach Tony Blair heights of awfulness in record time. Sure, I suspect that any PM would be under pressure to join in the gun peddling this week, but a man or woman of stronger character would have looked at the situation and said, “no - it is inappropriate,” and not gone.

I suspect that despite his bluster, Cameron is fairly easy to manipulate within certain parameters. He’s certainly very easy to get to revert to type despite all his apparent “green” and “ethical” musings.


were you expecting anything different. if you were more fool you.


No, I wasn’t. It’s all façade.

Note that in Qatar today, Cameron has told students that more people voted for him, which is why he’s in power. That’s BS. More people didn’t vote for him, and he’s only in power because the LibDems are there propping him up.

Author:  lumbthelesser [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:34 pm ]
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paulzolo wrote:
Note that in Qatar today, Cameron has told students that more people voted for him, which is why he’s in power. That’s BS. More people didn’t vote for him, and he’s only in power because the LibDems are there propping him up.


In fact, only 33973 people voted for Cameron. Not many at all. That said, Witney isn't exactly a big place. ;)

Author:  hifidelity2 [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:46 pm ]
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bobbdobbs wrote:
The only good politician is a dead politician. Then they should be beheaded, incinerated and then shot just to make sure.

Ahh but who are you going to buy the guns off ;)

Author:  bobbdobbs [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:51 pm ]
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hifidelity2 wrote:
bobbdobbs wrote:
The only good politician is a dead politician. Then they should be beheaded, incinerated and then shot just to make sure.

Ahh but who are you going to buy the guns off ;)

Good honest hardworking arms dealers :lol:

Author:  hifidelity2 [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:36 pm ]
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bobbdobbs wrote:
hifidelity2 wrote:
Ahh but who are you going to buy the guns off ;)

Good honest hardworking arms dealers :lol:

What liken the ones "Dave" is taking with him around the Middle East

Author:  bobbdobbs [ Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:39 pm ]
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hifidelity2 wrote:
bobbdobbs wrote:
hifidelity2 wrote:
Ahh but who are you going to buy the guns off ;)

Good honest hardworking arms dealers :lol:

What liken the ones "Dave" is taking with him around the Middle East

I was thinking more of the russian mafia!

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