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http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/ ... _1_2524862

Article is not quite accurate as they are being turned-off today as the police realised they would have to visit all of them to re-set the clocks to BST and then visit them again next week to turn them off.

Party time I think as we've had too many of them anyway.

Now if only they could remove the damned speed humps that just damage the tyres and suspension :x

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the police realised they would have to visit all of them to re-set the clocks to BST

That's really daft. Surely there's nothing wrong with time-stamps being in UTC? Seasonally adjusted local time can be easily calculated later using your fingers. Yet another example of the clocks changing causing needless expense.

Although not any more I guess.

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the police realised they would have to visit all of them to re-set the clocks to BST

That's really daft. Surely there's nothing wrong with time-stamps being in UTC? Seasonally adjusted local time can be easily calculated later using your fingers.

Speed camera photographs are timestamped and are, legally speaking, evidence. Changing them in any way, even to adjust for BST, would place them open to legal challenge. Better to have the right info on them in the first place.
However I'm somewhat amazed someone has to visit them to do so. This is the kind of thing you can do remotely with a GSM signal and the chip required to do that costs pennies.

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JJW009 wrote:
JohnSheridan wrote:
the police realised they would have to visit all of them to re-set the clocks to BST

That's really daft. Surely there's nothing wrong with time-stamps being in UTC? Seasonally adjusted local time can be easily calculated later using your fingers.

Speed camera photographs are timestamped and are, legally speaking, evidence. Changing them in any way, even to adjust for BST, would place them open to legal challenge. Better to have the right info on them in the first place.

The thing is, the UTC time stamp would be "the right info". There's no need to "change the photo" to figure out when it was taken. I think even the most retarded judge could understand that concept.

In fact, it makes absolutely no blooming sense to send a guy out in a van to adjust all the clocks. That basically means you don't know if the time is right or not on a given photo, because it depends on when and if the geezer turned up to change it. If it's locked to UTC then you absolutely do know when it was taken.

There will be two 01:30s tomorrow - how rubbish is that in a court of law :lol:

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Party time I think as we've had too many of them anyway.

Now if only they could remove the damned speed humps that just damage the tyres and suspension :x

There are better solutions for traffic calming that are not so damaging.

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There are better solutions for traffic calming that are not so damaging.


Yep like the new law in France which says that on any road (I assume not motorways etc) a pedestrian may put up their hand and start crossing the road and the motoring is obligated to stop and wait for them - wonder how many will get mowed down :lol:

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I'm sure that could not be properly enforced. Imagine if someone wants to run out in front of moving traffic and do it? No chance of being unharmed, in whatever country. There needs to be a distance and it needs to be in relation to speed. Hence stopping distances.

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Yep like the new law in France which says that on any road (I assume not motorways etc) a pedestrian may put up their hand and start crossing the road and the motoring is obligated to stop and wait for them - wonder how many will get mowed down :lol:

Lol, the only times I've been to France you have a job not getting run over on the zebra crossings. :lol:

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Here is the link just to prove I'm not "yanking your chains" http://www.car-addicts.com/archive/news ... oss-street

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JohnSheridan wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
There are better solutions for traffic calming that are not so damaging.


Yep like the new law in France which says that on any road (I assume not motorways etc) a pedestrian may put up their hand and start crossing the road and the motoring is obligated to stop and wait for them - wonder how many will get mowed down :lol:

Actually I was thinking more along the lines of removing street markings and road signs.

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Actually I was thinking more along the lines of removing street markings and road signs.

It worked very well in Holland IIRC, resulting in fewer accidents because it made drivers think.

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Actually I was thinking more along the lines of removing street markings and road signs.

It worked very well in Holland IIRC, resulting in fewer accidents because it made drivers think.


Ashford in Kent has done a similar thing. It's working well, too.

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There will be two 01:30s tomorrow - how rubbish is that in a court of law :lol:

No there won't - that's autumn you're thinking of. ;)

At 0100 this morning, DST came into effect which meant that 0101 - 0159 didn't happen at all.

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JJW009 wrote:
There will be two 01:30s tomorrow - how rubbish is that in a court of law :lol:

No there won't - that's autumn you're thinking of. ;)

At 0100 this morning, DST came into effect which meant that 0101 - 0159 didn't happen at all.

Yeah, realised that randomly earlier today but never got around to changing it :oops:

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