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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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l3v1ck
What's a life?
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Or the PS3 at launch..... Oh wait....
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Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:38 pm |
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jonbwfc
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The PS3 and 360 are running neck and neck for sales in Europe apparently, so that suggests that over the lifetime of a console the launch price isn't a major drawback, possibly provided it comes down reasonably quickly. And I'd put the problems with the PSP Go down to the fact there was an effectively identical product (the PSP-3000) already on the market for less AND Sony made an utter ballbag of the online PSP software market, which was the only place you could buy software for the PSP Go. IMO, price is a factor but it's not the defining factor. It's much more important to have the software that makes the hardware attractive at whatever price it may be than just to have the right sticker on the box. The PSP is actually quite cheap but the software support is mediocre, so nobody feels like buying one regardless of how much it costs. Jon
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Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:44 pm |
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l3v1ck
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Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:32 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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I can't help wondering how many customers they lost to MS because of the 'lateness' and price of the PS3 initially. Mind you, how many people on their third failed Xbox bought a PS3? 
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Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:37 pm |
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cloaked_wolf
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TBH I'd have bought an Xbox had there not been problems with the RROD.
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Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:31 pm |
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Amnesia10
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:02 am Posts: 29240 Location: Guantanamo Bay (thanks bobbdobbs)
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Well I have bought my XBox and had had no problems. I will buy a PS3 if I can find enough games that I want to play on it.
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Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:13 pm |
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ProfessorF
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:56 pm Posts: 12030
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Seriously giving thought to a PS3 just for GT5. Second hand, probably.
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Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:15 pm |
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forquare1
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:36 pm Posts: 5161 Location: /dev/tty0
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My friends use XBOX, so I'd probably get that. But then I don't have a TV or spare monitor, so an XBOX or a PS3 would be pretty useless to me...
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Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:42 pm |
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jonbwfc
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weird but true - last month, the PSP outsold the 3DS in Japan. What are they on?
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Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:20 pm |
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pcernie
Legend
Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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I know, the only thing I could think of was the sheer amount of Japanese-centric games they get for the PSP Read recently though that Nintendo's share price took a massive hit - it's mostly blamed on Japan's recent problems, but the press are also throwing in low expectations for the 3DS overall 
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:49 am |
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Amnesia10
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As to Sony's claim that price does not make or kill a platform I would think that they are trying to compare themselves with Apple. The Wii did brilliantly initially because of the low price inspite of the simple graphics. Look at the iPad more expensive than an equivalent netbook yet still sells millions. Apple are one of the few companies that can get away with such pricing. Even so they stick to their gross margins to keep the market as large as possible. The same does not apply to Sony. Yes they do have some nice kit but they can only sell it for a little more than the competition. If they sold the PS3 at the same margin as the Wii would people have bought it as often. The fact that it was subsidised considerably made a huge difference to sales.
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:34 pm |
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JJW009
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:58 pm Posts: 8767 Location: behind the sofa
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I think the true cost price in the beginning would have been many thousands of pounds, but how do you even calculate the cost of something which costs millions to develop? You have to get that development cost back somehow. Personally, I'm sticking to my PCs for gaming at home and my 'droid for mobile entertainment. But then, I'm too old to really be considered in the target audience...
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:06 pm |
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pcernie
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:30 pm Posts: 45931 Location: Belfast
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'Rubbish, here's a glowing wand and some shovelware. Now get your credit card out...' Age won't hold me back that much, rip-off prices for shoddy products will though 
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Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:29 pm |
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Amnesia10
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You claim the R&D costs against the companies profits overall, it will be amortised over the life of product which could be seven years. Otherwise it would be stupid. Many products never make it to market. Even so the original PS3 cost more in terms of hardware than the overall price. You still need to add in R&D.
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