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IMO it's a national disgrace the way we've treated our military, certainly over the last decade. And Labour have a fcuking brass neck standing up to be counted now, they had every opportunity to reform the MOD and only even made minimal concessions when the likes of the Murdoch press pushed it :evil:

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Sat May 14, 2011 1:41 pm
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TBH they shouldn't get preferential treatment on the NHS. They should have their own Military Hospitals where they can get the care they need by people, and surrounded by people, who know exactly what they've gone through.

With all the will in the world the NHS staff will, generally, have no real understanding of what someone in the Armed Forces has faced.

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TBH they shouldn't get preferential treatment on the NHS. They should have their own Military Hospitals where they can get the care they need by people, and surrounded by people, who know exactly what they've gone through.

With all the will in the world the NHS staff will, generally, have no real understanding of what someone in the Armed Forces has faced.

Exactly, though the MOD have closed most of them. The problem is that the government are now run by inept bean counters. While separate military hospitals might cost more they can also be used for training during gaps between wars. The cost effectiveness can be much greater when you have a much higher quality of staff.

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Ehile separate military hospitals might cost more they can also be used for training during gaps between wars. The cost effectiveness can be much greater when you have a much higher quality of staff.

Exactly. There have been cases where military Doctors have gone into mainstream hospitals and taught them a variety of techniques that they're picked up from the battlefields. Not only have these been effective at helping with treatment but they can help reduce the time needed for people to be in hospital which will help save money.

I really want to see politicians plan long term, not short term.

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I really want to see politicians plan long term, not short term.

We'll need to change the FPTP system before that ever happens...

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adidan wrote:
I really want to see politicians plan long term, not short term.

We'll need to change the FPTP system before that ever happens...

We also need to reform political financing as well. Then add in corruption laws to deter politicians joining firms that their ministry were responsible for.

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adidan wrote:
TBH they shouldn't get preferential treatment on the NHS. They should have their own Military Hospitals where they can get the care they need by people, and surrounded by people, who know exactly what they've gone through.

With all the will in the world the NHS staff will, generally, have no real understanding of what someone in the Armed Forces has faced.


Indeed - when you heard stories of NHS hospitals not being told what kind of injuries to expect because the causes would be classified, you can’t expect them to prepare fully for the kind of injuries they are likely to deal with. Military hospitals are necessary - they know what to expect, and how to deal with it. I think it would be obvious to anyone that someone injured in military action will be bringing back a whole shed load of problems that will need specialist attention.

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