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Author: | Amnesia10 [ Mon May 09, 2011 10:59 pm ] | |||||||||
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/201 ... t-students
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Author: | l3v1ck [ Tue May 10, 2011 7:40 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Richest students to pay for places at UK's best universities |
If they were good enough to get into the top universities, they should be able to get in through the normal process anyway! |
Author: | jonbwfc [ Tue May 10, 2011 9:57 am ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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it does say...
But you have to wonder with the majority of british universities being.. er.. financially challenged at the moment there would be a great temptation to 'cram' popular courses and sod the requirements... Jon |
Author: | jonlumb [ Tue May 10, 2011 10:18 am ] |
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Aye, when so much of say the Oxbridge application process is on the basis of an interview, and that they quite often give out unconditional offers, it would be very easy to abuse if they wanted. |
Author: | adidan [ Tue May 10, 2011 12:56 pm ] |
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So the Tories want to allow you to buy your way into education. No surprise there. |
Author: | l3v1ck [ Tue May 10, 2011 1:16 pm ] | |||||||||
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Wouldn't the top uni's use this as a sneaky way of getting extra money but not letting rich people in as standard?
It would be like having a post code lottery for even higher fees. |
Author: | adidan [ Tue May 10, 2011 1:20 pm ] |
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Think this is yet another idea they're knocking on the head. What is it with them? Since they came to power they've had countless 'ideas' that they've wasted time and money working on that have been fundamentally sh!t but they don't see it until much later on. I despair, I really do. |
Author: | l3v1ck [ Tue May 10, 2011 1:25 pm ] | |||||||||
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Author: | bobbdobbs [ Tue May 10, 2011 1:27 pm ] | |||||||||
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Actually I think it could be good idea. Those who are able to afford it can "Buy" an additional place. Leaving places for those that are "socially excluded" (thus meeting government guidelines on accessibility) and those who fall in the middle. The Uni gets a load of extra money and they dont get penalised for having more students then they are allowed. |
Author: | l3v1ck [ Tue May 10, 2011 1:32 pm ] | |||||||||
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By pushing that model, your actually saying "Those who are able to afford it will have to "Buy" an additional place. It's just even more huge fees by another name. |
Author: | adidan [ Tue May 10, 2011 1:42 pm ] | |||||||||
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How would that work in practice? What happens when you only have enough teaching staff for a set number? Do you include a "socially excluded" student, someone who can pay for a place or increase lecture sizes to the point of uselessness? |
Author: | bobbdobbs [ Tue May 10, 2011 1:42 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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By afford State pays less. Applicants must still be "intelligent" enough to qualify No places lost for those who cant afford to "buy" a place. Seems like a win win situation |
Author: | adidan [ Tue May 10, 2011 1:43 pm ] | |||||||||
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How, in practice and reality? |
Author: | bobbdobbs [ Tue May 10, 2011 1:45 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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If you have the teaching staff for a set number then you cant go over that, unless you add in enough extra students to pay for that staff. I see this as an idea that should be considered and not immediately dismissed out of hand. Theres nothing wrong with having the discussion and if it cant be done practically then put it to one side. |
Author: | bobbdobbs [ Tue May 10, 2011 1:48 pm ] | ||||||||||||||||||
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I dont know for sure, no one does. If its an idea being put forward for discussion, why not discuss it. But if the piece in the guardian is an accurate reflection on the proposals then if a course has 30 places then anyone "buying" a place must not take one of those 30 places. They would be the added extra. The 30 places would be for people coming the normal route. |
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