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Author:  HeatherKay [ Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:21 am ]
Post subject:  We invent enemies to buy the bombs

Simon Jenkins has an article in the Guardian's Comment Is Free section which struck a chord.
Simon Jenkins in the Guardian wrote:
It is not democracy that keeps western nations at war, but armies and the interests now massed behind them. The greatest speech about modern defence was made in 1961 by the US president Eisenhower. He was no leftwinger, but a former general and conservative Republican. Looking back over his time in office, his farewell message to America was a simple warning against the "disastrous rise of misplaced power" of a military-industrial complex with "unwarranted influence on government". A burgeoning defence establishment, backed by large corporate interests, would one day employ so many people as to corrupt the political system. (His original draft even referred to a "military-industrial-congressional complex".) This lobby, said Eisenhower, could become so huge as to "endanger our liberties and democratic processes".

I wonder what Eisenhower would make of today's US, with a military grown from 3.5 million people to 5 million. The western nations face less of a threat to their integrity and security than ever in history, yet their defence industries cry for ever more money and ever more things to do. The cold war strategist, George Kennan, wrote prophetically: "Were the Soviet Union to sink tomorrow under the waters of the ocean, the American military-industrial complex would have to remain, substantially unchanged, until some other adversary could be invented."


Big D will be aware of the Eisenhower thing, and it's the first time I've been aware of it being mentioned in the mainstream media. Sadly, we may be 50 years too late to do anything about it.

Here's the YouTube link for the Eisenhower farewell speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnaM8TqA ... re=related

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: We invent enemies to buy the bombs

That is what Johnny Foreigner was invented for, to bomb them! ;)

I am actually supportive of the needs for defence but there is no cost control of weapons procurement and everything goes over budget. If so why not write contracts that will deprive shareholders of their company if they go over budget. So if they are over bvudget the company has to hand over shares to the value of the cost overrun. It would not be too long before the entire industry was either much better at extimating costs or had effectively been nationalised through incompetance.

Author:  tombolt [ Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:15 am ]
Post subject:  We invent enemies to buy the bombs

We also sell them less powerful weaponry when they're friends.

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