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Author:  ProfessorF [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:33 pm ]
Post subject:  US Navy Bought Fake Chinese Microchips With Backdoor

Oops.

Quote:
The Navy Bought Fake Chinese Microchips That Could Have Disarmed U.S. Missiles
Robert Johnson
Jun. 27, 2011, 9:22

Last year, the U.S. Navy bought 59,000 microchips for use in everything from missiles to transponders and all of them turned out to be counterfeits from China.
Wired reports the chips weren't only low-quality fakes, they had been made with a "back-door" and could have been remotely shut down at any time.
If left undiscovered the result could have rendered useless U.S. missiles and killed the signal from aircraft that tells everyone whether it's friend or foe.
Apparently foreign chip makers are often better at making cheap microchips and U.S. defense contractors are loathe to pass up the better deal.
The problem remains with these "trojan-horse" circuits that can be built into the chip and are almost impossible to detect -- especially without the original plans to compare them to.
The Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Agency (IARPA) is now looking for ways to check the chips to make sure they haven't been hacked in the production process.
Expect to see a whole lot more funding directed to this goal. Or, considering IARPA is the research and development section of the intelligence community -- expect the money to be spent -- don't expect to see where.


http://www.businessinsider.com/navy-chinese-microchips-weapons-could-have-been-shut-off-2011-6

Author:  koli [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: US Navy Bought Fake Chinese Microchips With Backdoor

businessinsider wrote:
Wired reports they had been made with a "back-door" and could have been remotely shut down at any time.

wired wrote:
The chips turned out to be counterfeits from China, but it could have been even worse. The chips could have been hacked, able to shut off a missile in the event of war or lie around just waiting to malfunction.

Looking at the conclusion that business insider got from what wired wrote I think they misunderstood.
I don't think the back-door was actually there. I think wired meant that "had there been a back-door" the chips "could have been hacked".

I ready to be corrected though, English is my second language after all...

Author:  JJW009 [ Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: US Navy Bought Fake Chinese Microchips With Backdoor

koli wrote:
I think they misunderstood.

I think you're right.

It looks unambiguous to me. "could have been" not "had been". That's very bad copy-paste journalism basically creating a sensationalist story where there wasn't one. At least they quoted their source so the more diligent could check.

Author:  ShockWaffle [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: US Navy Bought Fake Chinese Microchips With Backdoor

I'm thinking that a chip in a missile would need a lot more than just an undocumented back door to get hacked. Like some kind of way to access it for instance.

Author:  JJW009 [ Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: US Navy Bought Fake Chinese Microchips With Backdoor

ShockWaffle wrote:
I'm thinking that a chip in a missile would need a lot more than just an undocumented back door to get hacked. Like some kind of way to access it for instance.

It doesn't have to be "hacked". One possibility mentioned was simply premature failure. Missiles don't usually get used the day they're assembled, and depending on the chip it could be designed to fail in certain situations.

Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: US Navy Bought Fake Chinese Microchips With Backdoor

JJW009 wrote:
ShockWaffle wrote:
I'm thinking that a chip in a missile would need a lot more than just an undocumented back door to get hacked. Like some kind of way to access it for instance.

It doesn't have to be "hacked". One possibility mentioned was simply premature failure. Missiles don't usually get used the day they're assembled, and depending on the chip it could be designed to fail in certain situations.

Maybe there will be a hidden code that if aimed at a chinese military vehicle that it detonates immediately rather than be allowed to fire. Also ballistoc missiles will treat any GPS position in China as non existant so will not detonate. :twisted:

Author:  adidan [ Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: US Navy Bought Fake Chinese Microchips With Backdoor

They didn't buy any of these while they were at it did they?

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