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Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Charities 'hit by funding cuts'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14366522

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More than 2,000 charities across England have had their funding cut or withdrawn altogether by local councils, according to research.

An anti-cuts campaign produced the findings from more than 250 responses to Freedom of Information requests.

The cuts total more than £10m in the past year, but the final figure could be far higher, their report claimed.

The government said any councils not recognising the importance of the voluntary sector were "short-sighted".

A quarter of all charities receive funding from the state and for some groups - such as employment and training organisations - it can make up the bulk of their income.

Oops didn't the government realise this?

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"It sounds great, but in practice the Big Society is looking more and more like a big con," he said.

I have felt that since it was announced.
Author:  dogbert10 [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Charities 'hit by funding cuts'
Aren't charities supposed to be supported by "charitable donations"?

If a council is giving them money, then doesn't that mean it's taxpayer-subsidised? I don't remember ever being asked at local election time whether or not I minded having my tax given to a charity. Surely that's my decision to make.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Charities 'hit by funding cuts'
dogbert10 wrote:
Aren't charities supposed to be supported by "charitable donations"?

If a council is giving them money, then doesn't that mean it's taxpayer-subsidised? I don't remember ever being asked at local election time whether or not I minded having my tax given to a charity. Surely that's my decision to make.

Yes but what has happened over the last couple of decades is that they sold out to councils. Many do advisory work on behalf of councils which completely undermines their role as support for the groups that they represent. I know of cases where they made assessments for a council which were completely wrong because they had a council contract at risk.
Author:  bubbles [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Charities 'hit by funding cuts'
dogbert10 wrote:
Aren't charities supposed to be supported by "charitable donations"?

If a council is giving them money, then doesn't that mean it's taxpayer-subsidised? I don't remember ever being asked at local election time whether or not I minded having my tax given to a charity. Surely that's my decision to make.


I'm with you here
a charity shouldn't depend on a council paying for it. In my eyes its not really a charity if it is.

maybe we will see some charities merging together now so that its easier for them to self fund themselves.
Author:  mikepgood [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 5:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Charities 'hit by funding cuts'
bubbles wrote:
dogbert10 wrote:
Aren't charities supposed to be supported by "charitable donations"?

If a council is giving them money, then doesn't that mean it's taxpayer-subsidised? I don't remember ever being asked at local election time whether or not I minded having my tax given to a charity. Surely that's my decision to make.


I'm with you here
a charity shouldn't depend on a council paying for it. In my eyes its not really a charity if it is.

maybe we will see some charities merging together now so that its easier for them to self fund themselves.


+1
Author:  MrStevenRogers [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Charities 'hit by funding cuts'
more begging ads on TV ...
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Charities 'hit by funding cuts'
MrStevenRogers wrote:
more begging ads on TV ...

And chuggers on the streets. :cry:
Author:  jonbwfc [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Charities 'hit by funding cuts'
Amnesia10 wrote:
And chuggers on the streets. :cry:

Good luck to 'em. I've seen Airplane...
Author:  bubbles [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Charities 'hit by funding cuts'
Amnesia10 wrote:
MrStevenRogers wrote:
more begging ads on TV ...

And chuggers on the streets. :cry:


I like them, there usually friendly and if your not in a particular hurry, nice to talk to

they also get paid about £10 an hour wether they talk to anyone or not :P
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Charities 'hit by funding cuts'
bubbles wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
MrStevenRogers wrote:
more begging ads on TV ...

And chuggers on the streets. :cry:


I like them, there usually friendly and if your not in a particular hurry, nice to talk to

they also get paid about £10 an hour wether they talk to anyone or not :P

But do you appreciate that it can take a whole year of your contributions to pay the commission to the agency that provides them? So the charity does not benefit till year two.


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Author:  ShockWaffle [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Charities 'hit by funding cuts'
bubbles wrote:
they also get paid about £10 an hour wether they talk to anyone or not :P

But if they sign up x number of people a day, their hourly rate is increased to £15. It's something they do so that if you ask "are you on commission" they can kind of honestly say no.
Author:  paulzolo [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Charities 'hit by funding cuts'
Amnesia10 wrote:
But do you appreciate that it can take a whole year of your contributions to pay the commission to the agency that provides them? So the charity does not benefit till year two.


If you want to give to charity, do so directly. Going via chuggers is the worst way you can donate.
Author:  hifidelity2 [ Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Charities 'hit by funding cuts'
paulzolo wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
But do you appreciate that it can take a whole year of your contributions to pay the commission to the agency that provides them? So the charity does not benefit till year two.


If you want to give to charity, do so directly. Going via chuggers is the worst way you can donate.


I have to agree - although I treat chuggers (who accost you) and people with just a tin that they shake differently
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Charities 'hit by funding cuts'
paulzolo wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
But do you appreciate that it can take a whole year of your contributions to pay the commission to the agency that provides them? So the charity does not benefit till year two.


If you want to give to charity, do so directly. Going via chuggers is the worst way you can donate.

I do I have had a standing order for oxfam which has been running for 15 years.
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