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Author:  pcernie [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Codemasters boss doubts 'premium Wii U price point'
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/31 ... ice-point/

I'd be surprised if it's any more than £200 (look at the price of today's consoles) unless they seriously up the specs as we know them. That silly controller though... I wonder if Nintendo will actually take a loss on this hardware :)
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:14 pm ]
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They might actually be willing to take smaller profits on each console if it can sell more of them. Pricing will be crucial to it being a success. If under £200 it will do okay. If they have backward compatibility with older games that can giove it a boost.
Author:  pcernie [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:34 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
They might actually be willing to take smaller profits on each console if it can sell more of them. Pricing will be crucial to it being a success. If under £200 it will do okay. If they have backward compatibility with older games that can giove it a boost.


It'll be backward compatible with the Wii, but that's like saying 'I can totally eat my own puke!' :lol: :oops:
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:41 pm ]
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Well that will mean it will have some games at launch. If they use some upscaling technology on old games then it might make a lot more sense.
Author:  pcernie [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:43 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Well that will mean it will have some games at launch. If they use some upscaling technology on old games then it might make a lot more sense.


It's pretty much all rumour and speculation at the moment, and reading between the lines, it seems that goes for developers too :?
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:56 pm ]
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Until it is out it is always speculation. Though backward compatibility is sensible as it give a natural upgrade path. The ability to play old games would add very little to the cost, probably a $5 chip and that is it. In exchange they give the user a reason to buy. Especially if the old games work. I have held off buying a PS3 till there are enough games that I want to buy for it. For one game it is an expensive option.
Author:  pcernie [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:05 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Until it is out it is always speculation. Though backward compatibility is sensible as it give a natural upgrade path. The ability to play old games would add very little to the cost, probably a $5 chip and that is it. In exchange they give the user a reason to buy. Especially if the old games work. I have held off buying a PS3 till there are enough games that I want to buy for it. For one game it is an expensive option.


The way things are going for Nintendo and their historical 'cheap' approach to hardware, that chip could affect the margins too much :|

It's thought the PS3 will have another price drop soon, although that will make the PS Vita's price look even sillier :lol:
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:29 pm ]
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pcernie wrote:
The way things are going for Nintendo and their historical 'cheap' approach to hardware, that chip could affect the margins too much :|

It's thought the PS3 will have another price drop soon, although that will make the PS Vita's price look even sillier :lol:

Yes but it helped Sony sell the PS3 into the US. Even though they were stupid enough to remove it when they sold it to Europe. Thing margins might be one thing but to cut off a huge potential market for a few dollars seems stupid. Without it they definitely need a whole new raft of games to help sales.

The PS3 is not selling well even though it is now profitable for them. A price cut is over due.
Author:  pcernie [ Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:36 pm ]
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The original European PS3s had backwards compatibility, and Other OS before both were discontinued :evil:
Author:  jonbwfc [ Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:01 pm ]
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pcernie wrote:
The original European PS3s had backwards compatibility, and Other OS before both were discontinued :evil:

Theres' some nuance to that. The original 'fat' PS3's sold in the US and Japan had a hardware based PS2 emulation system - basically they had a PS2 on a chip, the same way the PS2 had a PS1 on a chip. When the PS3 launched in Europe, Sony removed the chip and switched to a software based emulation system. That meant the emulation wasn't as good and many PS2 games that ran on JP/US PS3's wouldn't run on EU ones.

They then revised the hardware on the US/JP systems to the same as the EU one.

That's why the later complete removal of PS2 emulation entirely was something they couldn't excuse as anything other than a business move - there was essentially no cost to the PS2 emulation they were shipping at that point.

Jon
Author:  pcernie [ Sun Aug 07, 2011 12:14 pm ]
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'We'd really like to sell you some overpriced nostalgia on PSN and act like we're doing you a favour! You scum.'
Author:  soddit112 [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:36 am ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
Well that will mean it will have some games at launch. If they use some upscaling technology on old games then it might make a lot more sense.


i was hoping they would do something like this too, but all the rumours so far state that it wont support Gamecube games, atleast in disk form. all i want is to play F-Zero GX at 1080p :cry:
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:12 am ]
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soddit112 wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
Well that will mean it will have some games at launch. If they use some upscaling technology on old games then it might make a lot more sense.


i was hoping they would do something like this too, but all the rumours so far state that it wont support Gamecube games, atleast in disk form. all i want is to play F-Zero GX at 1080p :cry:

I do not have a Wii but 1080p would seem to be a requirement now with so many HD TV's around.
Author:  soddit112 [ Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:21 pm ]
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Amnesia10 wrote:
soddit112 wrote:
Amnesia10 wrote:
Well that will mean it will have some games at launch. If they use some upscaling technology on old games then it might make a lot more sense.


i was hoping they would do something like this too, but all the rumours so far state that it wont support Gamecube games, atleast in disk form. all i want is to play F-Zero GX at 1080p :cry:

I do not have a Wii but 1080p would seem to be a requirement now with so many HD TV's around.


if the 360 and PS3 can manage 720p with the equivalent of a Geforce 8600 and 7900, i have no doubt the Wii U will easily manage 1080p with a Radeon 4870-like GPU, especially with Wii and Gamecube games. hell, it could probably go higher if they put a little effort in :P
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