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Author:  PaulKey [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Once again.... you couldn't make it up.
And they wonder why the public criticise......


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-14522941
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Once again.... you couldn't make it up.
Wow are they running out if things to do? This is a complete waste of time and money. I hope that the person sues the police for malicious prosecution. He would probably win. So will we need licenses for super soakers now? :roll:
Author:  Linux_User [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Once again.... you couldn't make it up.
So much for Blackberry Messenger being encrypted & kept away from prying eyes.

This is all knee-jerk anti-riot stuff. Knee-jerk legislation/policies are the worst kind.

Clearly the Police have nothing better to do.
Author:  Amnesia10 [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Once again.... you couldn't make it up.
Linux_User wrote:
So much for Blackberry Messenger being encrypted & kept away from prying eyes.

This is all knee-jerk anti-riot stuff. Knee-jerk legislation/policies are the worst kind.

Clearly the Police have nothing better to do.

I think that Blackberry will lose customers over this. Businesses want security. If the messages are being handed over to the police who knows what else they are getting access to? What about legitimate queries about the riots? If the word riot was a trigger then businesses could find all their traffic being searched. Not good in terms of business confidence if their messages are decrypted and floating out there somewhere.
Author:  bobbdobbs [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Once again.... you couldn't make it up.
Amnesia10 wrote:
Linux_User wrote:
So much for Blackberry Messenger being encrypted & kept away from prying eyes.

This is all knee-jerk anti-riot stuff. Knee-jerk legislation/policies are the worst kind.

Clearly the Police have nothing better to do.

I think that Blackberry will lose customers over this. Businesses want security. If the messages are being handed over to the police who knows what else they are getting access to? What about legitimate queries about the riots? If the word riot was a trigger then businesses could find all their traffic being searched. Not good in terms of business confidence if their messages are decrypted and floating out there somewhere.

Dont consumer versions of BB run a different system for messaging security than corporate customers?
Author:  jonbwfc [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Once again.... you couldn't make it up.
bobbdobbs wrote:
Dont consumer versions of BB run a different system for messaging security than corporate customers?

Yes and no. Corporate systems have Blackberry Enterprise servers that connect to the user's email system whereas 'consumer' systems do direct POP/IMAP grab. However everything that shows up on your blackberry has to go via RIM and/or your mobile service provider. The phone doesn't make a direct connection to the 'secure corporate environment' beyond the point that it's activated. BBMs definitely go via RIM. In theory, the text of the messages should be passed as an encrypted lump of data which RIM itself can't read - but apparently they've been somewhat economical with the truth about that.

Jon
Author:  belchingmatt [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Once again.... you couldn't make it up.
Linux_User wrote:
So much for Blackberry Messenger being encrypted & kept away from prying eyes.


You are assuming that messages have been hacked. Are the police banned from owning blackberries? Could they not have received the messages directly through subterfuge or an informant?
Author:  koli [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Once again.... you couldn't make it up.
belchingmatt wrote:
Linux_User wrote:
So much for Blackberry Messenger being encrypted & kept away from prying eyes.

You are assuming that messages have been hacked. Are the police banned from owning blackberries? Could they not have received the messages directly through subterfuge or an informant?

I think this is what happened: The guy has used BBM to broadcast (send one message to all his BBM contacts) a message about the waterfight, people kept passing/broadcasting it on until it got to somebody who showed it to police.

Anything (bbm, pin, emails) that goes through BIS (ordinary Joe's BB) can be read by RIM. What goes through the BES (corporate BB) cannot be (in theory) read by anybody, no even by RIM.

For those who want to know more:
http://crackberry.com/blackberry-encryp ... alk-turkey
http://crackberry.com/what-blackberry-e ... i-need-one
http://crackberry.com/pin-pin-messaging-secure
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