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Top Gear did not libel carmaker Tesla, high court rules
Tesla Motors loses major part of high court libel claim against BBC's motoring programme over performance of its Roadster

Josh Halliday
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 19 October 2011 14.36 BST

Electric sports carmaker Tesla Motors has lost a major part of its high court libel claim against the BBC's Top Gear programme, but is still suing the corporation for malicious falsehood over an episode that showed the company's Roadster model running out of battery in a race.

Ruling at the high court in London on Wednesday, Mr Justice Tugendhat said that no Top Gear viewer would have reasonably compared the car's performance on the show's airfield track to its likely performance on a public road.

The hearing continues on other grounds, including Tesla's claim that the Top Gear presenters maliciously made five other false statements about the Roadster.

Tesla first made a complaint against the BBC in 2008, after the show was originally broadcast. The company's complaint centred on Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson, who said in the programme that the Roadster ran out of battery after 55 miles on its track – far short of the 200 miles that Tesla claimed it could achieve.

Tugendhat said: "In my judgment, the words complained of are wholly incapable of conveying any meaning at all to the effect that the claimant [Tesla] misled anyone.

"This is because there is a contrast between the style of driving and the nature of the track as compared with the conditions on a public road […] are so great that no reasonable person could understand that the performance on the [Top Gear] track is capable of a direct comparison with a public road."

The judgment was handed down verbally by Tugendhat shortly before lunchtime on Wednesday in the full-day hearing.

Tesla has accused Top Gear of using "staged" footage to create the impression that the Roadster had run out of battery. The US carmaker also complained that Top Gear characterised a blown fuse as a brake failure, and that the model became immobile as a result of overheating.

In its skeleton argument, Tesla says it has seen a "continuing impact" of the 2008 Top Gear episode on its reputation, resulting from its availability on the BBC iPlayer video-on-demand service, DVD, and syndication of the original programme to other broadcasters including the digital channel, Dave.

Tugendhat reserved judgment on Tesla's malicious falsehood claim. The judge is expected to return a verdict within weeks. The BBC contests that the entire claim should be struck out.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/19/top-gear-not-libel-tesla

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My car can get 40mpg if driven carefully. If I thrashed it (full throttle around a track), I'd be getting around 9-11mpg. Am I suddenly going to try to sue VW for this?

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That's the link to the episode on TG website. For the first few minutes, JC actually compliments the car - it's faster than a Lotus Elise in a drag race.

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Maybe its that people are beginning to wake up to the fact that pure elctric cars are usless unless you only do short distances (less than 10 miles). The TG comparison between the Nissan Leaf and the Peugeot Ion showed exactly how flawed these cars are for "normal" use.

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Maybe its that people are beginning to wake up to the fact that pure elctric cars are usless unless you only do short distances (less than 10 miles). The TG comparison between the Nissan Leaf and the Peugeot Ion showed exactly how flawed these cars are for "normal" use.

Given most do 80 miles plus on a charge, 10 miles is a bit pessimistic. For most people, it would be fine for the daily commute, I could probably get away with recharging ever 2 - 3 days.

And hairing around a track at full throttle is very different to pottering along an A road at 30 - 60mph.

My old Mondeo would do 1,000KM on a tank, if I drove carefully, it would do under 600KM if I hammered it everywhere. Sports cars do even worse, comparing pootling around normal roads and doing 140mph+ on a track all day.

I think the truth lays somewhere between the two, the Tesla is a quick electric sports car, for the road. Its motorisation isn't designed for the track.

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True but as TG have said, it's a bit silly styling the car to look like a sports coupe but then find it doesn't drive like one! TBH I'd be a bit miffed if I bought a "sporty" car that didn't drive like a sporty car, and I certainly wouldn't buy one if I knew it didn't!

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The Tesla roadster does drive like a sports car. Just not very far...


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jonbwfc wrote:
The Tesla roadster does drive like a sports car. Just not very far...

.... depends on how long your extension cable is....... ;)

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