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paulzolo
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-15683561Hmm - I would have thought elevating the toll would help keep traffic moving. The tolls were supposed to be scrapped once the bridge had been paid for, which it was a few years back. Instead the tolls have gone up.
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HeatherKay
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:13 pm Posts: 7262 Location: Here, but not all there.
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Uh-oh. I can see where this is going. Boris's Folly will be concatenated with a new Thames crossing. North Kent has truly become the patio of the Garden of England. 
_________________My Flickr | Snaptophobic BloggageHeather Kay: modelling details that matter. "Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.
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Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:11 am |
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paulzolo
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Considering the whole Dartford crossing is M25 biased, a new crossing to Boris Island would need to connect to the motorway pretty efficiently, or people will continue to use the existing crossing.
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Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:14 am |
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l3v1ck
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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So which would you prefer ? 
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Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:32 am |
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HeatherKay
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Oh, Option C most definitely. Anything that let's me drive from my doorstep, avoiding Dartford and South Ockenden in one fell swoop. 
_________________My Flickr | Snaptophobic BloggageHeather Kay: modelling details that matter. "Let my windows be open to receive new ideas but let me also be strong enough not to be blown away by them." - Mahatma Gandhi.
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Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:36 am |
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l3v1ck
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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Option B seems pretty stupid to me.
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Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:56 am |
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paulzolo
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:27 pm Posts: 12251
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Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:46 am |
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rustybucket
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Thu Jun 18, 2009 5:10 pm Posts: 5837
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So... - Option A is a waste of time and money
- Option C will be an environmental horror show and dump traffic at M2 J1 which will need a long, complex and expensive rebuild
I would choose Option B if it were extended to join Option C to the north of the A13.
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Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:20 pm |
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hifidelity2
I haven't seen my friends in so long
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:03 pm Posts: 5041 Location: London
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Option C but make it a looong tunnel
Yes 10x the cost but it would keep all the the tree huggers happy(ish)
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Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:08 pm |
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bobbdobbs
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Joined: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:10 pm Posts: 5490 Location: just behind you!
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[LIFTED] 'em if they want to be happy let them put their hands in their pockets to pay the extra cost 
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Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:19 pm |
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paulzolo
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Options B & A are there to make option C (doubtless the preferred route) more palatable. A - that’s just upgrading the current tunnel crossing. It won’t add anything more to that crossing, and the volume of traffic will just increase at the Dartford crossing, causing more congestion. The whole area is a network of tunnels and bridges anyway, so how they can fit another crossing in there is beyond me. QEII Bridge by hairydalek, on Flickr QE II Bridge and High Speed 1 by hairydalek, on Flickr B - that’s an oddity. It may satisfy local traffic, but the majority of traffic is heading to/from Dover and the Tunnel. C - this makes sense as it’s effectively filtering traffic coming from the North of the country heading towards Dover away from the bridge. Yes, people won’t like it, but I think it’s the one that will relieve the most congestion from Dartford.
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Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:58 pm |
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l3v1ck
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Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:21 am Posts: 12700 Location: The Right Side of the Pennines (metaphorically & geographically)
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But hardly anyone using motorways would use option B. It wouldn't realistically relieve the conjestion at the Dartford crossing.
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Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:30 am |
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