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Author:  l3v1ck [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:06 am ]
Post subject:  2nd home council tax discount cut
News CLICKY
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Owners of second homes in England could lose council tax discounts, under new plans to be announced by Communities Secretary Eric Pickles on Monday.

Councils would have the power to reduce or remove council tax relief on second homes and empty homes. Second homes currently receive up to 50% discount.

The money would be used to keep overall council tax bills down, he is to say.

About time. If you can afford two houses, then you can afford to pay the tax on them too.
At the very least this will help council funds and may even prompt a few people to sell their 2nd homes. There aren't enough homes for first time buyers as is it, so this may help, even if it is only by a tiny amount.
Author:  tombolt [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:52 am ]
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At last. Can't believe it's taken a Tory to do it. Something labour should have done ages ago.
Author:  l3v1ck [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2nd home council tax discount cut
Something that should never have been introduced in the first place.
Author:  bobbdobbs [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2nd home council tax discount cut
I agree with all the above statements.
Author:  rustybucket [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2nd home council tax discount cut
l3v1ck wrote:
Something that should never have been introduced in the first place.

LEV! Stop it!

:lol: +1
Author:  cloaked_wolf [ Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2nd home council tax discount cut
Why was it introduced?
Author:  tombolt [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:32 am ]
Post subject:  2nd home council tax discount cut
I imagine to encourage the housing market during the previous crash, but I don't know when it was brought in without checking up, so can't be sure of that.
Author:  paulzolo [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2nd home council tax discount cut
tombolt wrote:
I imagine to encourage the housing market during the previous crash, but I don't know when it was brought in without checking up, so can't be sure of that.


It has priced locals out of their area in some places. I know second homes are a huge problem in some parts of Cornwall where property prices have inflated so artificially because of this.
Author:  hifidelity2 [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 2:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2nd home council tax discount cut
paulzolo wrote:
tombolt wrote:
I imagine to encourage the housing market during the previous crash, but I don't know when it was brought in without checking up, so can't be sure of that.


It has priced locals out of their area in some places. I know second homes are a huge problem in some parts of Cornwall where property prices have inflated so artificially because of this.



And it wont make 1 iota of a difference - if you can afford a few £100K for a 2nd house the fact that you will now pay £600 rather than £300 in rates will be meaningless
Author:  tombolt [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  2nd home council tax discount cut
paulzolo wrote:
tombolt wrote:
I imagine to encourage the housing market during the previous crash, but I don't know when it was brought in without checking up, so can't be sure of that.


It has priced locals out of their area in some places. I know second homes are a huge problem in some parts of Cornwall where property prices have inflated so artificially because of this.


It's caused many of the same problems here, not to mention the rest of us having to pay more council tax to make up for it.

Though the second home ownership and retirement has more to do with the property prices than the council tax exemption.
Author:  belchingmatt [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2nd home council tax discount cut
tombolt wrote:
I imagine to encourage the housing market during the previous crash, but I don't know when it was brought in without checking up, so can't be sure of that.


I'm sure it's been around since before 1995.
Author:  ShockWaffle [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2nd home council tax discount cut
I've not looked it up, but my guess would be that it's been around since the start. Most of the less reasonable looking tax breaks are based on a concept (not in itself unreasonable) that the same thing shouldn't be taxed twice. So the idea is that you should only pay 1 council tax.

It's the same with Capital Gains. The idea there is that you pay income tax on your earnings from your job, so you don't the same rate of tax again on earnings from investments you made with those other earnings.

The awesome thing is that this way the govt gets to claw back a few million from people who will write pissy letters to the Torygraph but would never vote Labour, and that makes them look good in front of the majority who might vote either way but only owns one house - if that. In the meantime, the really big earners get all their pay as Cap Gains, which is why Warren Buffet pays a lower proportional rate than his cleaner does. And those guys don't give a fcuk about council tax.
Author:  tombolt [ Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:44 pm ]
Post subject:  2nd home council tax discount cut
belchingmatt wrote:
tombolt wrote:
I imagine to encourage the housing market during the previous crash, but I don't know when it was brought in without checking up, so can't be sure of that.


I'm sure it's been around since before 1995.


I'm not quite sure what you mean, the last crash was in 91.
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